The Vaccine for Covid is coming fast

[custard pie man]

11 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

The Gestapo returns to Austria:

Undercover Cops to Check Vax Pass Papers in Austria Corona Crackdown (breitbart.com)

the new world order, scary shit and quite sobering, how long before Faucci and pals what with the new white house domestic terrorist task force make the same move on our guns, our right to bear arms? not the usual the left tries but waiting for the ultimate mandate as media will use the same talking points daily" domestic terrorist are the biggest threat facing this nation", seems like Hitler 2 is coming to a theater near you

[custard pie man]

10 minutes ago, Stryder1978 said:

Can someone please explain the obsession people have over getting and taking the Covid tests?

I mean people are cleaning off store shelves or waiting in line for 3-4 hours to get one.  WHY?

The university I work at REQUIRED us to get the booster before the semester starts next week.  They also require us to get tested before the semester starts - and an "at-home" test would not fulfill this requirement.  So Tuesday, I had made an appointment with the clinic here on campus for a 0900 hour test.  When I tested overseas, I waited around 15 minutes and got my results back.  But here in the good ol' USA, they told me they would send the results via e-mail.  So, I went back to the office and checked - notta.  I checked again Tues afternoon - notta.  First thing Wed morning when I got into work - notta.  Finally last night (Wed) at 1637 hours, I got he e-mail saying my test was negative and "no further action was required".

SOOOOO...what about that 36 hour period between when I submitted the sample to when I got the results back?  While working on campus, how many people did I come into contact with that may have had the virus and passed it on to me through their ill-fitting mask (if they were even wearing one) during that 36 hour period?.  What if I was positive and, during the course of my regular work duties, passed that virus along to everyone I was in contact with those 36 hours?

Those tests are merely a snapshot in time......you could get the virus as you pass the people walking out of the testing clinic!

This whole process is a joke and it's time we told the CDC, Fauxci and the rest of the lemming officials to shove their polices.....       

exactly, believe it was Steve who posted if all the peaceful protesters  (lmao) of BLM and Antifa marched and destroyed campuses because of these useless mandates and or policies then  the woke would get woken up for good and these useless mandates would go away, hit em in the wallet! I personally haven't purchased anything related to coca cola for that reason. The thought that the left is making employers to fire employees for refusing to get the vaccine which doesn't work and also doesn't stop the vaccinated from spreading the virus is utterly  senseless to all who have common sense, thus the only explanation is world power and domination, people are fed up, the election will be a landslide for republicans which is why the left is ramping up their false rhetoric on voter suppression, its their only chance to stay in power

[Stryder1978]

Covid loses '90pc of its infectiousness within five minutes of being airborne'

 

Coronavirus loses 90 per cent of its infectiousness within five minutes of becoming airborne, a new study has suggested.

Preliminary data from the University of Bristol reveals that in a real world situation the conditions of the air dry out the viral particles.

The team measured how stable SARS-CoV-2 droplets – the virus which causes Covid – are over time, ranging from five seconds to 20 minutes.

 

“A decrease in infectivity to approximately 10 per cent of the starting value was observable for SARS-CoV-2 over 20 minutes, with a large proportion of the loss occurring within the first 5 minutes after aerosolisation,” the scientists write in the paper.

The findings indicate that the virus does not survive for long outside the warm and damp environment of a host's respiratory system, and loses its potency rapidly in the wild.

'Near instant loss of infectivity in 50 to 60pc of the virus'

The study, which has not yet been published in full or peer-reviewed, shows that in air with 50 per cent humidity, akin to that circulated in large buildings, there is a “near-instant loss of infectivity in 50 to 60 per cent of the virus”.

At much higher humidity, the droplet does not dry out instantly and remains fluid for longer, which means the virus remains stable and infectious for two minutes.

However, even under these favourable conditions the virus loses 90 per cent of its infectiousness after ten minutes.

“It means that if I’m meeting friends for lunch in a pub today, the primary [risk] is likely to be me transmitting it to my friends, or my friends transmitting it to me, rather than it being transmitted from someone on the other side of the room,” Prof Jonathan Reid, the study’s lead author from the University of Bristol, told The Guardian.

Prof Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia, said that the study suggests airborne spread “may not be as important as some have thought”.

[custard pie man]

27 minutes ago, Stryder1978 said:

Covid loses '90pc of its infectiousness within five minutes of being airborne'

 

Coronavirus loses 90 per cent of its infectiousness within five minutes of becoming airborne, a new study has suggested.

Preliminary data from the University of Bristol reveals that in a real world situation the conditions of the air dry out the viral particles.

The team measured how stable SARS-CoV-2 droplets – the virus which causes Covid – are over time, ranging from five seconds to 20 minutes.

 

“A decrease in infectivity to approximately 10 per cent of the starting value was observable for SARS-CoV-2 over 20 minutes, with a large proportion of the loss occurring within the first 5 minutes after aerosolisation,” the scientists write in the paper.

The findings indicate that the virus does not survive for long outside the warm and damp environment of a host's respiratory system, and loses its potency rapidly in the wild.

'Near instant loss of infectivity in 50 to 60pc of the virus'

The study, which has not yet been published in full or peer-reviewed, shows that in air with 50 per cent humidity, akin to that circulated in large buildings, there is a “near-instant loss of infectivity in 50 to 60 per cent of the virus”.

At much higher humidity, the droplet does not dry out instantly and remains fluid for longer, which means the virus remains stable and infectious for two minutes.

However, even under these favourable conditions the virus loses 90 per cent of its infectiousness after ten minutes.

“It means that if I’m meeting friends for lunch in a pub today, the primary [risk] is likely to be me transmitting it to my friends, or my friends transmitting it to me, rather than it being transmitted from someone on the other side of the room,” Prof Jonathan Reid, the study’s lead author from the University of Bristol, told The Guardian.

Prof Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia, said that the study suggests airborne spread “may not be as important as some have thought”.

Attention senator Rand Paul feel free to use this study next time you sqare off with the little man

[Stryder1978]

'This will set a dangerous precedent': Canadians react to Quebec decision to ask unvaccinated adults to pay up

Elisabetta Bianchini

Tue, January 11, 2022, 2:33 PM

 

 

Quebec Premier François Legault announced Tuesday that unvaccinated adults in the province will soon need to pay a "health contribution."

"The vaccine is the key to fight the virus," Legault said at a press conference. "This is why we’re looking for a health contribution for adults who refused to be vaccinated for non-medial reasons."

"Those who refuse to receive their first dose in the coming weeks will have to pay a new health contribution."

The amount is still unknown but Legault indicated it would be "significant."

He added that these adults who are refusing to get vaccinated are putting an "important burden" on the province's healthcare system.

"I think it’s normal that the majority of the population is asking that there be a consequence," the premier said.

"Yes, we will continue to look at spreading the use of the vaccine passport but I think we have to go further and I think that right now, it’s a question also of fairness for the 90 per cent of the population who made some sacrifices. I think we owe them this kind of measures."

Following the announcement of this new "health contribution" to come, many Canadians took to social media to respond to this upcoming measure, some in support and some against the move.

as a physician who has never received a dollar from pharma i believe i have been as pro-vaccine as any in the country — because they save lives and our health care system. but quebec taxing individuals who are not vaccinated is regressive and will undermine the canada health act.

— Andrew Baback Boozary MD (@drandrewb) January 11, 2022

[custard pie man]

On 12/29/2021 at 12:00 AM, SteveAJones said:

If NYC has not become the shit hole of America it's got to be a close second. Where have you gone Charles Bronson?

 

having traveled via train couple weeks back from new haven and into grand central to watch Army/ Navy game on saturday and Saints/ Jets on sunday I can assure you it is indeed the shit hole of  america, remember a Plant quote from the 70's which could be applied here" it's  not that  we know were #1 but that were so far ahead of whoever is #2"

[custard pie man]

so the supreme court just shoved it deep and hard to Biden and the liberal socialist by voting 6-3 against his vaccine mandate for large employers and osha taking precedent! would copy breaking news but  simply don't have the talent or knowledge as how to do, however this guy is grabbing a beer

[hummingbird69]

2 hours ago, custard pie man said:

so the supreme court just shoved it deep and hard to Biden and the liberal socialist by voting 6-3 against his vaccine mandate for large employers and osha taking precedent! would copy breaking news but  simply don't have the talent or knowledge as how to do, however this guy is grabbing a beer

We all know the mandates are unconstitutional too bad joe had to have the supreme court tell him so.  6 to 3???  the decision should have been unanimous.

[custard pie man]

1 hour ago, hummingbird69 said:

We all know the mandates are unconstitutional too bad joe had to have the supreme court tell him so.  6 to 3???  the decision should have been unanimous.

yeah but 5-4 in favor of the health care mandates with  liberal Roberts and Kavanaugh siding with the 3 wackos, so we have a huge shortage of hospital workers and now it gets worse, Bret K. was a surprise, didn't think he would rule that way

[JohnOsbourne]

They continue to lose control of the narrative:

Why omicron is changing how media outlets report on COVID data | AP News

[JohnOsbourne]

Straight from the horse's mouth:

So, after all the drama, threats of job loss, ostracization, etc., this guy's telling us the vaccines don't work against the latest "variant".  (Bit surprised he's not been blocked by Twitter.)  But never fear:  in March (i.e. when flu season is over), there WILL be a new vaccine ready against "omicron".  And then of course when that fails to work against the variant du jour, well, they'll get another vaccine ready for you.  Rinse and repeat.

It's just mind-boggling that so many people are stupid enough to be falling for all of this.

 

[LedZeppfan1977]

On 1/12/2022 at 9:43 AM, custard pie man said:

but... there is no limit to stupid, on another not as a life long cowboys fan living in ct. all my life I really hope  your Bills kick the crap out of the patriots, even though Brady isn't there i'm so  sick of it all

Dont worry, we will take out Billy boy and his rookie Mac.  The Bills destroyed the in Foxboro.  We will beat them.  Our defense is going to have the rookie under siege.  Josh Allen will get the job done.  He has all of his receivers ready.  Diggs, Knox, Davis, McKenzie, Sanders, and Singletary is playing lights out. Josh can run and throw s you know.  The big game will be the showdown in KC.  The team I feared the most in the AFC was Indy and they are out.  I am picking a Bills vs Rams or Packers Super bowl.  But my money is down on Bills vs Rams

[chillumpuffer]

Not fast enough for Novax Cuntavic

Edited January 14, 2022 by chillumpuffer

[SteveAJones]

21 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

Can someone please explain the obsession people have over getting and taking the Covid tests?

I mean people are cleaning off store shelves or waiting in line for 3-4 hours to get one.  WHY?

Two possibilities. One, they think those Covid test results are valid and accepted everywhere. Two, as with the masks in 2020 they are being bought up in bulk and then resold where the demand has exceeded supply in other areas and overseas (profiteering).

 

13 hours ago, custard pie man said:

so the supreme court just shoved it deep and hard to Biden and the liberal socialist by voting 6-3 against his vaccine mandate for large employers and osha taking precedent! would copy breaking news but  simply don't have the talent or knowledge as how to do, however this guy is grabbing a beer

They'll be desperate to pack the SCOTUS now.

 

17 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

'This will set a dangerous precedent': Canadians react to Quebec decision to ask unvaccinated adults to pay up

"Those who refuse to receive their first dose in the coming weeks will have to pay a new health contribution."

Just as the government cannot buy back what they did not sell and is not for sale, a compulsory Covid contribution is not a contribution. This is Bill Clinton-esque double speak -- it's not a tax, or a tax hike, it's "an investment".

[SteveAJones]

10 hours ago, hummingbird69 said:

We all know the mandates are unconstitutional too bad joe had to have the supreme court tell him so.  6 to 3???  the decision should have been unanimous.

The SCOTUS justice who smells like spray paint and cheap perfume isn't there to the rule on the side of constitutionality, rather the opposite.  

[custard pie man]

10 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

Straight from the horse's mouth:

So, after all the drama, threats of job loss, ostracization, etc., this guy's telling us the vaccines don't work against the latest "variant".  (Bit surprised he's not been blocked by Twitter.)  But never fear:  in March (i.e. when flu season is over), there WILL be a new vaccine ready against "omicron".  And then of course when that fails to work against the variant du jour, well, they'll get another vaccine ready for you.  Rinse and repeat.

It's just mind-boggling that so many people are stupid enough to be falling for all of this.

 

I lost some friends when I argued at a party that vaccinating  children and making them wear masks was plain stupid and  full of abuse, these retired teachers told me  that anyone  who doesn't vax and  make kids wear masks simply don't love their kids, knew these people for 30 years, as we got up to leave my wife said it was one of the dumbest and hurtful statements she's ever heard and I said you two if you were with reverand Jim Jones years back, when standing in line to drink the wine and saw everyone drop dead would still wait your turn and drink the kool aid, in other words, can't fix stupid

[custard pie man]

8 hours ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

Dont worry, we will take out Billy boy and his rookie Mac.  The Bills destroyed the in Foxboro.  We will beat them.  Our defense is going to have the rookie under siege.  Josh Allen will get the job done.  He has all of his receivers ready.  Diggs, Knox, Davis, McKenzie, Sanders, and Singletary is playing lights out. Josh can run and throw s you know.  The big game will be the showdown in KC.  The team I feared the most in the AFC was Indy and they are out.  I am picking a Bills vs Rams or Packers Super bowl.  But my money is down on Bills vs Rams

your qb Allen scares the hell out of me, every playoff he does something that kills his team, he needs to learn to make better decisions and he still shows sometimes he can't, if he matures then Bills can go far

[custard pie man]

3 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

Two possibilities. One, they think those Covid test results are valid and accepted everywhere. Two, as with the masks in 2020 they are being bought up in bulk and then resold where the demand has exceeded supply in other areas and overseas (profiteering).

 

They'll be desperate to pack the SCOTUS now.

 

Just as the government cannot buy back what they did not sell and is not for sale, a compulsory Covid contribution is not a contribution. This is Bill Clinton-esque double speak -- it's not a tax, or a tax hike, it's "an investment".

team Biden  had the worst day i've seen in a very long time, as far as  desperate to pack the courts, I wonder if this is why Cavanaugh went with the 4 liberals on the health care mandate, sort of throwing  a carrot to Biden on a much lesser mandate than the  private employer one (80m people vs about 8m) ? just a thought

[SteveAJones]

7 hours ago, custard pie man said:

 I wonder if this is why Cavanaugh went with the 4 liberals on the health care mandate, sort of throwing  a carrot to Biden on a much lesser mandate than the  private employer one (80m people vs about 8m) ? just a thought

It's plausible. I'd be very interested to hear his rationale now that you mention it. 

[hummingbird69]

8 hours ago, custard pie man said:

team Biden  had the worst day i've seen in a very long time, as far as  desperate to pack the courts, I wonder if this is why Cavanaugh went with the 4 liberals on the health care mandate, sort of throwing  a carrot to Biden on a much lesser mandate than the  private employer one (80m people vs about 8m) ? just a thought

It isn't unconstitutional for an employer to tell employees what they need to do to come to work so I can see how they fell off on the hospitals. it is unconstitutional for the gov to mandate without law. The constitution does not extend to the private sector  in that way.

It does not make sense to fire those people though, especially when you're complaining about a pandemic.

Edited January 14, 2022 by hummingbird69

[custard pie man]

53 minutes ago, hummingbird69 said:

It isn't unconstitutional for an employer to tell employees what they need to do to come to work so I can see how they fell off on the hospitals. it is unconstitutional for the gov to mandate without law. The constitution does not extend to the private sector  in that way.

It does not make sense to fire those people though, especially when you're complaining about a pandemic.

what I've gotten is  because the federal gov't gives the monies for hospitals/ patients for medicare and medicaid the  justices thought  this was a slippery slope that they would go down, but where will that stop? Education, municipalities, etc all get funds and lets not forget the unions who's balls are connected to the left, really wish Kavanaugh didn't join liberals on that one  but perhaps he was giving them a small victory  so they can't scream bloddy murder  for packing the courts

[JohnOsbourne]

This is probably why they're starting (ham-fistedly) to do an about-face on some of the scare-mongering:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/poll-finds-only-10-americans-trust-media-covid-30-trust-fauci

[SteveAJones]

On 1/13/2022 at 10:30 PM, custard pie man said:

the new world order, scary shit and quite sobering, how long before Faucci and pals what with the new white house domestic terrorist task force make the same move on our guns, our right to bear arms? not the usual the left tries but waiting for the ultimate mandate as media will use the same talking points daily" domestic terrorist are the biggest threat facing this nation", seems like Hitler 2 is coming to a theater near you

Precisely. The domestic terror threat has already been played up for more than a year. Remember when militia groups were "on the march" last January and there would be attacks on government facilities "from coast to coast"? That was their justification for National Guard units deployed indefinitely to the US Capital. Text book social conditioning operation. At the same time we have learned words have no fixed definition -- if "infrastructure" can mean anything so can "the right to bear arms" and anything deemed a "public health threat" can have  a federal mandate enforced against it (they tried that one, SCOTUS ruled against it). 

 

 

[LedZeppfan1977]

On 1/14/2022 at 8:46 AM, custard pie man said:

your qb Allen scares the hell out of me, every playoff he does something that kills his team, he needs to learn to make better decisions and he still shows sometimes he can't, if he matures then Bills can go far

Not really a fair take on a 25 year old that is lights out, took them to the tile game last year by beating a very good Baltimore team an Indy.  They murdered the Chiefs earlier in the year.  Remember that?  Remember what he did to NE a few weeks ago when it was all on the line?  He is the real deal.  

OOPS  WRONG THREAD.  MY APOLOGIES.   No idea how this conversation wound up here?  Custard Pie,  any further discussion belongs in the NFL thread

Edited January 15, 2022 by LedZeppfan1977

[JohnOsbourne]

The vaccines are working.  Just not in the way they claim.

Fully Vaccinated Australians In Hospital For COVID-19 Surpass Unvaccinated | ZeroHedge