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46 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:

Steve, it is probably just me thinking like trailer park trash that big tech. has an agenda in protecting the left movement, shielding the truth to americans from the self created covid virus, the truth about the  unconstitutional mandates, the steal, the false narrative that "this pandemic is because of the unvaccinated" but I know that isn't true because I watched cnn and msnbc today and they said it wasn't true, god help us all, lmao

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1 hour ago, SteveAJones said:

It likely is -- the only question is if it's release was deliberate (government/deep state sanctioned).

Omicron has some highly unlikely characteristics one would expect to see if it genuinely was a variant of the original Wuhan Coronavirus.

There are things going on in labs nowadays people would not believe.

Omicron probably came out of a lab | The Wentworth Report  

there will be more, I said this over a year ago, democrats will keep this going until the midterms so they can attempt the steal#2, I can remember back with vietnam people were pissed as hell at Jane Fonda and wanted to go after her for treason, well fast forward to today, if we had a dept. of Justice who wasn't bought and paid for can you imagine  how many people  in our federal gov't. that could and should be charged with treason?

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On 11/20/2021 at 11:20 PM, BobDobbs said:

Actually surprised Austria is doing this as they are a coalition government with the President a Green Party Member and the Chancellor the head of the Peoples Party.

We do have a coalition government formed by the Green Party and the Peoples Party. The President is not part of a coalition government. Elections for Presidency and government are held separately. So whether the President is a socialist, a liberal or even a nudist, he is not a part of a coalition or any government.

 

On 11/20/2021 at 11:20 PM, BobDobbs said:

The Peoples Party is a Christian conservative, anti-socialist party and Austria has seen a resurgence of fascist / Nazi groups over the past 10 years.

The target groups of the Peoples Party are Christian conservatives, Industry and economy, farmers, establishment and rich people who wants to get even richer. They are not per se an anti-socialist party, not in the last 80 years.

Resurgence of Fascist / Nazi groups over the past 10 years? Sorry Bob, no new groups on the rise that I am aware of. The number of Neonazis and the leaders of their retarded core groups are about the same as 35 years ago , although they intend to fraternise with protesters against the government and their Corona policy recently.

On 11/20/2021 at 11:20 PM, BobDobbs said:

They are not a liberal country as the OVP holds the majority of minster positions and both Chancellery ministers are OVP, instead they are very conservative.

Would be interesting what makes you call a country a non liberal country, anyway, it is certainly not because of the ÖVP holds the majority of minister positions in the coalition. The reason is simply the result of the last parliamentary election. The  distribution of the ministries depends on success in the elections.

 

On 11/20/2021 at 11:20 PM, BobDobbs said:

I guess it's getting bad when even the semi-fascists go full lockdown.

Semi-Fascists? I think you know the meaning of the term Fascism, heaven knows why you are using it so thoughtlessly. 

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5 hours ago, custard pie man said:

so Faucci lied again, documents are public and available but no one has seen them, wonder why Faucci is afraid of disclosing his financials as the highest paid federal dirt bag? wonder if next he'll be selling paintings with Bidens druggie son in the white house for 500k a pop, meanwhile lets impeach Trump 3 times

If the pathological liar had any common sense he'd resign and move immediately to a nation offering immunity from prosecution -- China perhaps -- but life out of power is life without purpose to a DC Swamp Monster.

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So they will only test you if you have symptoms and tell you your wasting your time testing if you do not have the symptoms.  Yet somehow they have allowed the hoarding pricks that buy up all the water and toilet paper to buy up all the test kits also?  WTF are they doing?  How about a fucking limit assholes.

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Top Israeli immunologist criticizes pandemic response in open letter

Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure"

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).

You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

Irreversible damage to trust

However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

This emergency must stop!” [emphasis added]

https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/

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25 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:

Top Israeli immunologist criticizes pandemic response in open letter

Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure"

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).

You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

Irreversible damage to trust

However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

This emergency must stop!” [emphasis added]

https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/

so Omar the marry the brother from another from Minnesota, AOC,  republicans hate me because they can't have sex with me and the rest of the hate Israel squad should be going ape shit over this top immunologist from Israel, can't wait for that racist response from the communist left, meanwhile back in the states the weekend at bernies imitator in the white house will be putting together a new task force to deal with the biggest threat facing us, wait for it, domestic terrorist! shit my wife and I and 3 kids have to be on it because of our love of country and  we follow the constitution , well I waited almost 20 years to post here but I'll continue until the regime carts me away

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4 hours ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

So they will only test you if you have symptoms and tell you your wasting your time testing if you do not have the symptoms.  Yet somehow they have allowed the hoarding pricks that buy up all the water and toilet paper to buy up all the test kits also?  WTF are they doing?  How about a fucking limit assholes.

but... there is no limit to stupid, on another not as a life long cowboys fan living in ct. all my life I really hope  your Bills kick the crap out of the patriots, even though Brady isn't there i'm so  sick of it all

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10 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

THIS is the stat chart lamestream media should be running 24 hours a day.

it took me 6 years  to get a 4 year degree 35 years ago so i'm a little slow but does that chart suggest that over 70 years of age has the greatest chance of infection and death due to covid?  and under 20 has almost zero chance? so why on earth would all the democratic governors put all the positive covid patients  in with the elderly? It can't be that this was on purpose? I can't believe they would wish to get rid of all these wonderful, hardworking, life long taxpayers and extinguish them just because they are a drain on society? I faintly remember being taught something like this when I was a young child in history class when they used to teach history, had something to do with this Hitler fellow!

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2 hours ago, custard pie man said:

I can't believe they would wish to get rid of all these wonderful, hardworking, life long taxpayers and extinguish them just because they are a drain on society? 

No, it's much more insidious than that as, after all, they encourage people of all ages to be a drain on society because their political power is based upon dependency. It had to do with perpetuating the ideology that this was a dire public health emergency. Recovering patients in some blue states, and NY in particular, were shoved into nursing homes on the premise that the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed with a need for beds AND ventilators. So many vulnerable elderly people purposefully condemned to die alone without the dignity of a funeral service.

    

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1 hour ago, SteveAJones said:

No, it's much more insidious than that as, after all, they encourage people of all ages to be a drain on society because their political power is based upon dependency. It had to do with perpetuating the ideology that this was a dire public health emergency. Recovering patients in some blue states, and NY in particular, were shoved into nursing homes on the premise that the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed with a need for beds AND ventilators. So many vulnerable elderly people purposefully condemned to die alone without the dignity of a funeral service.

    

Agree, the left are very good at being evil, on a side have you ever posted how and why you got the hell out of here? i'm sure its a good story, anyways married almost 35 years, self employed all my life, put 3 kids through college, 2 are getting married this year, so I can only dream of one day getting out, however to keep from not going insane I escape sometimes to Montana or Idaho to chase elk around the mountains with archery equipment, helps me forget what a shit show we have all around me lol

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53 minutes ago, custard pie man said:

on a side have you ever posted how and why you got the hell out of here? i'm sure its a good story, anyways married almost 35 years, self employed all my life, put 3 kids through college, 2 are getting married this year, so I can only dream of one day getting out, however to keep from not going insane I escape sometimes to Montana or Idaho to chase elk around the mountains with archery equipment, helps me forget what a shit show we have all around me lol

I haven't elaborated on that and likely never will. I generally avoid discussing myself, rather I prefer to focus on presenting my views in the arena of ideas. Suffice to say sometimes one has to simply divest and vote with their feet. I did do a lot to get The Donald elected to end the corrupt Bush/Clinton political dynasties as I have retained that right. I've heard good things about Montana and Idaho. In fact, I've been keeping a close watch on news related to The Greater Idaho proposal. The US isn't too big to fail, it's too big to fix especially with this catastrophic pursuit of Build Back Broke. There's some interesting studies out there that show what the US will look like after it inevitably collapses and transitions into what will essentially become red state/blue state regional compacts. At one time I had high hopes for Texas but they are well on their way to getting overrun with an influx of U-haul trailers with blue state license plates. Being the first stop on the Illegal Alien Express doesn't help. You won't recognize the place in 2050.

Here's America's mainstream media members to close out this segment of the show. 

  

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WHO waving the white flag on boosters.  These clowns are finally waking up to the fact that we cannot vax our way out of this mess. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/frightening-joins-eu-changes-direction-suddenly-warns-taking-continued-covid-booster-shots/

Tell that to the fools living in places like Germany though who want compulsory vaccinations.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/01/12/german-president-wants-debate-on-mandatory-vaccination/

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2 hours ago, cryingbluerain said:

WHO waving the white flag on boosters.  These clowns are finally waking up to the fact that we cannot vax our way out of this mess. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/frightening-joins-eu-changes-direction-suddenly-warns-taking-continued-covid-booster-shots/

Tell that to the fools living in places like Germany though who want compulsory vaccinations.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/01/12/german-president-wants-debate-on-mandatory-vaccination/

that is the same  WHO that said China was very transparent in disclosing the China virus to the world, no wonder Trump showed them the door, I think they realize Biden, Faucci, and the cdc and our dear socialist democrats are starting to dig themselves a hole so deep they may never get out, the links on the chain is starting to break

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3 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

I haven't elaborated on that and likely never will. I generally avoid discussing myself, rather I prefer to focus on presenting my views in the arena of ideas. Suffice to say sometimes one has to simply divest and vote with their feet. I did do a lot to get The Donald elected to end the corrupt Bush/Clinton political dynasties as I have retained that right. I've heard good things about Montana and Idaho. In fact, I've been keeping a close watch on news related to The Greater Idaho proposal. The US isn't too big to fail, it's too big to fix especially with this catastrophic pursuit of Build Back Broke. There's some interesting studies out there that show what the US will look like after it inevitably collapses and transitions into what will essentially become red state/blue state regional compacts. At one time I had high hopes for Texas but they are well on their way to getting overrun with an influx of U-haul trailers with blue state license plates. Being the first stop on the Illegal Alien Express doesn't help. You won't recognize the place in 2050.

Here's America's mainstream media members to close out this segment of the show. 

  

lmao, while watching I pictured in my mind zeppelin playing when the levee breaks just as a tidal wave blows all these proud boys out to sea

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22 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

thank you, wonder if they have the percentage of people who drop dead watching the evening news, see the blatant lies, jump up to grab a beer and drop, has to be  more than this covid bs, haven't heard my doctor tell me to get a flu shot in 2 years either, how come cnn, msnbc, abc, cbs, abc news would never dream of showing this graph? I think we know

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10 hours ago, custard pie man said:

it took me 6 years  to get a 4 year degree 35 years ago so i'm a little slow but does that chart suggest that over 70 years of age has the greatest chance of infection and death due to covid?  and under 20 has almost zero chance? so why on earth would all the democratic governors put all the positive covid patients  in with the elderly? It can't be that this was on purpose? I can't believe they would wish to get rid of all these wonderful, hardworking, life long taxpayers and extinguish them just because they are a drain on society? I faintly remember being taught something like this when I was a young child in history class when they used to teach history, had something to do with this Hitler fellow!

Not quite, IFR (infection fatality rate) is the % of infected people who died.  So, it's the probability of death GIVEN infection, it doesn't say anything about the chance of getting infected in the first place.  (It's quite likely at this stage that the entire population has bee exposed to the virus or some "variant".)  And you are right:  the decision to put positive patients in nursing homes early in the pandemic was simply criminal negligence of the highest order.  Cuomo got forced out for telling his secretary she's hot, but the media was totally silent about his order for care centers to take in infected individuals.  (It is sobering to think that the Cuomo brothers were the closest thing to normal, heterosexual males in the Democratic Party.)

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16 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

Top Israeli immunologist criticizes pandemic response in open letter

Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure"

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).

You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

Irreversible damage to trust

However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

This emergency must stop!” [emphasis added]

https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/

:hurrah:

:goodpost:

Bravo!

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Can someone please explain the obsession people have over getting and taking the Covid tests?

I mean people are cleaning off store shelves or waiting in line for 3-4 hours to get one.  WHY?

The university I work at REQUIRED us to get the booster before the semester starts next week.  They also require us to get tested before the semester starts - and an "at-home" test would not fulfill this requirement.  So Tuesday, I had made an appointment with the clinic here on campus for a 0900 hour test.  When I tested overseas, I waited around 15 minutes and got my results back.  But here in the good ol' USA, they told me they would send the results via e-mail.  So, I went back to the office and checked - notta.  I checked again Tues afternoon - notta.  First thing Wed morning when I got into work - notta.  Finally last night (Wed) at 1637 hours, I got he e-mail saying my test was negative and "no further action was required".

SOOOOO...what about that 36 hour period between when I submitted the sample to when I got the results back?  While working on campus, how many people did I come into contact with that may have had the virus and passed it on to me through their ill-fitting mask (if they were even wearing one) during that 36 hour period?.  What if I was positive and, during the course of my regular work duties, passed that virus along to everyone I was in contact with those 36 hours?

Those tests are merely a snapshot in time......you could get the virus as you pass the people walking out of the testing clinic!

This whole process is a joke and it's time we told the CDC, Fauxci and the rest of the lemming officials to shove their polices.....       

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