^ This Plant was a huge Morrison fan until the Seattle Pop Show in 69' where both Zep & the Doors were on the bill. Plant was seriously looking forward to him and Maureen watching the Doors set, this was the highlight for Plant, that is how much Plant liked Morrison at that point. When Morrison pulled his drunken buffoon act its affect on Plant was the same as if we went to a Plant show and he showed up drunk, mumbling, and acting the ass. When Jim was somewhat sober, the Doors could put on an amazing performance (Hollywood Bowl for one) and believe it or not, one of their last gigs at Isle of Wight on Aug 30th 1970 was also very good.

Have to agree with you on this, I preferred their stage look 68-72' era. The wizard suits and later dragon suits of 73'-77' Jimmy wore were not my thing and don't get me started on Robert's ridiculous blouses. Prince could pull that shit off because he was a very small man and it just worked for him. Robert was a goddamned giant at 6'1" insofar as musicians were concerned and singers especially so to me he looked silly. I liked what they wore during the last Oakland gig in 77' and a few other shows in 77'. The black blouse like shirt he wore during the NY dates looked good as it looked more like an untucked black dress shirt than a blouse. The clothes on the Euro 80' tour were ok as well. I remember watching TSRTS for the first time and thought WTF was Robert wearing? He looks like a Poof! For me THAT blouse was the worst thing I ever saw him wear and of course that was the one caught on film. Meh, to each their own.

Damn Sean that was brutal! Maybe you saw some bad Firm shows or just hated the b-bender but the show I saw in Phoenix 85' he played very well indeed. I also liked that Jimmy had reinvented his style, evolved, and played very differently than his Zep days. I liked the b-bender and what he did with it on tunes like Dreaming and Satisfaction Guaranteed. Not many players would have the balls to reinvent their style after being in one of the biggest bands in the world. Even if you hate the b-bender you have to give Page credit for trying something new. After all, he used all of new style merged with the old for the 94'-2000' period and I for one think that period had Jimmy's finest playing on a consistent basis since 73'.

Well what do you know, either way, it still looks ridiculous.

Now THIS is a great mob movie. Donnie Brasco, Goodfellas, and Casino were the most accurate portrayals of mob life set to celluloid.

That was the 85' tour, not the 83' tour. Robert dressed rather normal in 83'. By 85' and Shaken n' Stirred he had gone full 80's with those silly jumpsuits, belts and ballet shoes. That aside the 85' tour was fantastic, great shows, Robert sounded very good, and there was the "bonus" Honeydripper set where the band came out after a set break wearing greaser outfits (jeans and black leather jackets), with their hair slicked back in duck-tails. He also had backup singers in poodle skirts.

ARGH!!!! Get it away!!!! Its a goddamned succubus!!!

Jesus that sounds good, Jonsey was getting funky! Whole band sounds in fine form.

True, but they played both GP & FS during the 94' Unledded show and the 95' tour. I guess pride on Robert's part could have been a factor as you mentioned, he could not faithfully re-create these songs live until the 77' tour and by then they had newer tunes to play. By 94' I think Robert no longer cared if he could hit the notes, as long as the overall song would come over well. Who knows, too bad though as I thought the 95' versions were damn good.

Man, I remember once lowering my strap to Jimmy 1977 level and I thought, how the hell can anyone not a gorilla play a guitar that low. When I play I keep it just a wee bit lower than where Jimmy has his in the pic above, and I mean a WEE bit lower. The neck PU is parallel with my waistline, any lower than that and I just can't play.

Enjoying a lovely Cherry-Vanilla Pie-Hole Porter on my back deck, enjoying the breeze and mountain views.

Notice how Page has his guitar hanging high in the studio vs. low when playing live.

Yep, sure did, the Tele / Supro combo is all over the 1st album

I really love these live versions of GP and again they mystery ensues as to why the only performed both FS & GP live only a handful of times. The stop-go cadence of GP with the electric gives the song a very different feel and vibe, same with FS. I could understand them dropping these songs from the set list if they could not pull them off live but they could, did, and did so more affectively then they did some show staples they played live for years.

You got that right. I was brought up with ushers in the theatres and your parents keeping one eye on you and one arm cocked and ready to spring. Going to the movies was an event, people were polite but now, it's the damn Thunderdome.

The skies opened up and the rains poured down. Completely unexpected and desperately needed, what a great storm. Me and the wife were sitting outside on the patio at Josephine's Restaurant right around 1pm (practicing proper social distancing of course) when the sky broke open, absolutely glorious! We walked around a few miles enjoying the rain. Temp was a cool 61 degrees. Just love days like today.

Question for Eagles experts. Which Eagles album had a painting / drawing on either the inner gatefold or on the back, of the band in a car on a desolate desert road, the car is wrecked and the band dead with a dead eagle on the hood of the car. I remember seeing this about 45 years ago but I cannot remember which album. I think it is from On the Border but not sure.

I saw Page the following dates: April 10th 1977, March 1985, October 1988, May 95' and Sept 98'. Jimmy played extremely well every time I saw him however I would rate these shows as follows: 1. Sept 24th, 1998': Page was at Jeff Beck level of technique and control of his instrument, this is the best playing, hands down, I have seen from Jimmy. All the elements were there and for me this was his pinnacle of playing ability 2. April 10th, 1977: Another excellent performance where he was playing near 73' era levels, his only real flub of the night was during the first TYG solo, everything else was spot on. 3. May 10th, 1995: Page did a great job at this show and I have the DVD of the Irvine, CA show as well from this tour and both performances were very similar. What I really liked about this show were the added musicians which allowed P&P to represent correctly, for the first time, many Zep songs. I always believed Zep needed, required a second guitarist especially post 73' as the compositions became very difficult for three musicians to pull off live. ALS is a good example. I may get shit for this but the 95' tour had the best ALS, this is how the song should have sounded live. The difference Porl made as second guitarist made all the difference in the world. My only complaint here is Porl was more a second lead player than strictly rhythm. I really liked Porl's playing and his soloing was fantastic but I really wanted this to be more Jimmy's show. This is just a preference on my part and I have to admit, it is just a selfish nit. 4. October 1988: Another crackerjack show at a great venue, Mesa Amphitheatre at sunset. Just an amazing vibe and I went with my brother which made it extra special. Only complaint was I really did not like the lead singer John Miles but Jimmy played great if a wee bit reserved. I was very surprised he played this well after seeing him suck hard just a few months prior at the 40th. Believe me, just about everyone was surprised and when he just nailed the STH solo the crowd erupted after holding their collective breath. The old Jimmy was BACK! 5. March 1985: This is a weird one because Jimmy played extremely well at this show but as pointed out, he did not seem very happy in general. He was looking in good health, fit, wearing his white pants and t-shirt and just played his ass off. I guess I was hoping for fun, vibrant 73' MSG Jimmy and instead got a Ritchie Blackmore'esque performance, great playing but he just stood in one place and hardly moved, until the encores where he did come alive. So I have been very lucky as I never caught a bad or even mediocre performance by Page. I will again point out the 98' tour as even though Page had a gut, he was not only at the top of his playing ability but was just having one hell of a time as well, the pure joy was all over his face and in his movements.

At Scottsdale Fashion Square or the Cini-Capri you could see TSRTS, The Wall, & Rocky Horror at the same theatre but different screens at the midnight movies. It was hilarious as the two different groups (Pink Floyd & Zeppelin vs. The Rocky Horror crowd) would talk shit to each other. Nothing ever got physical back then as everyone was chill and likely high as well. It was just good fun taking the piss and there was never any trouble. I drifted between the two camps as I liked all three movies and got a kick out of TRHPS groups costumes and acting during the movie. I had a crush on a regular who dressed up as Little Nell but I guess I did not look enough like Meat Loaf for her tastes...no luck.

That's because you live in the Twilight Zone, shit gets wacky over on the other side. Also, 1941 was one of the worst movies ever, walked out of the theatre after 45 minutes. I was embarrassed for the actors involved.

I get it, but Page should have at least shortened WS/BMS to three, maybe four minutes. Or even better, he should have brought back Spanish Blood from his Yardbirds days, that would have been a great segue.

You should look up Robert Ben Rhoades, that guy was REALLY messed up. He was a sexual sadist who was an over the road trucker who picked up run away's and prostitutes. One of his victims got away, ran to a police station all tore up, literally tore up from the torture he had done to her, and the cops did nothing because she was a run away. Took them several more years and several more dead women before he was caught.

He is an ego- maniacal dude, good filmmaker buy really weird and full of himself.

To be accurate, Gacy never dressed up as a clown and killed people. Gacy was a very weird, very complex man who like many serial killers could compartmentalize his life. On the one hand you had Gacy the respected contractor, the beloved neighbor, and occasional clown who would perform for children. On the other hand you had the sadist serial killer Gacy who only got away with his crimes due to extreme police apathy regarding missing teenage boys and young adults. Very similar to the debacle a decade later regarding Jeffrey Dahmer and the Milwaukee police who actually returned a naked, bleeding victim back to Dahmer after the victim escaped. Then when the same person went missing the same cops called it a homo-cide. Gacy was an impulse killer, somewhat disorganized in his method, and of average intelligence. The only reason he was able to kill 33 boys / young men was because the police just sucked. Then again this is the reason why most killers go un-punished is due to gross police negligence. Only 10 - 60% of murders are solved in the US (we have the lowest clear rate of any developed nation) and the mean solve rate is around 25-30%. Bonus Fact: If a gun is used to kill someone, the percentage those cases are solved is a dismal 10% max as guns can kill from a distance and leave little evidence.

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