TypeO Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 The Nobel Peace prize has become completely political, which is a disgrace. Story here. Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have yet to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change. and... The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war. Quote
TypeO Posted October 9, 2009 Author Posted October 9, 2009 From Reuters... Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg referred to Obama's work for peace and disarmament, saying: "This is a surprising, an exciting prize. It remains to be seen if he will succeed with reconciliation, peace and nuclear disarmament." HO.LY.SHIT. So now the Nobel Peace prize is given BEFORE anything is accomplished, on the basis of potential, or promise, instead of results and accomplishments. It's like receiving the award on credit - "OK, remember, you now owe us some results." I'm sure it will have no effect whatsoever on his decisions in Afghanistan, and on Iran. Quote
Dzldoc Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 It's been a joke for a long time, if my memory serves me right didn't Stalin and Hitler get nominated? Al Gore was picked over Mother Theresa! Quote
planted Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Just when you think you've seen it all. I heard on a talk show this AM that Obama would have had to receive the nomination just 2weeks into his Presidency. Oy vey. Quote
Pb Derigable Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Yeah, I'm getting one in 2010, for my work as a union delegate when we are in negotiations with china in 2121 when they take over the united states. It's kinda of a big thing. Quote
I have got a horsey Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 The Nobel Peace prize has become completely political, which is a disgrace. Story here. and... It's always been the way. I mean Kissinger and Le Duc Tho were awarded the prize when both their hands were still deep into the Vietnam War. At least Le Duc Tho refused it Quote
bigstickbonzo Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 If anything, this just reinforces how irrelevant the award really is. Quote
planted Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Anyone want to guess why he received this award? I say, it's because he's NOT George Bush. Which, IMHO, is exactly why he was elected as President. Hey, I wonder if he'll also be Playmate of the Year? ahaa. Quote
planted Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Lest we forget.... 00:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5Kl38fSVY Edited October 9, 2009 by planted Quote
pagemccartney95 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Go figure. Remember, folks, the deadline for whatever a nominee accomplishes is February 1. So how long was Obama president? 2 weeks! Politics as usual. And when will someone who's actually done something get nominated? , Jo Quote
planted Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Bingo. I take some consolation in knowing he and Bush will also differ in that Bush was a two-term President. Yep. But, don't forget, we have to turn this thing around starting in 2010..... Quote
TypeO Posted October 9, 2009 Author Posted October 9, 2009 It's always been the way. I mean Kissinger and Le Duc Tho were awarded the prize when both their hands were still deep into the Vietnam War. At least Le Duc Tho refused it True. I guess I was thinking more of people like MLK, Jr., who truly accomplished things and made a measurable difference in the world. Quote
Hotplant Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 You guys should just make a permanent "Let's bash the President thread." Quote
Electrophile Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 As most people know I am an ardent Obama supporter but even I don't think he deserved this. He'd only been President what, 2 weeks or something? It's an honor he was even nominated, but I think he should decline to accept it. However, that doesn't mean I can't smile in glee at all the necons getting their panties twisted over this. Why, I can almost hear Glenn Beck's frothing-at-the-mouth reply to this now...... Quote
pagemccartney95 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 You guys should just make a permanent "Let's bash the President thread." yourself! Just because people criticize the prez doesn't mean they're bashing him! Criticizing means negatively commenting on his actions and decisions; bashing is saying awful, hateful things about him, something I don't think most fair-minded folks will take part in, who I believe make up the majority on this forum. , Jo Quote
Electrophile Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 bashing is saying awful, hateful things about him, something I don't think most fair-minded folks will take part in, who I believe make up the majority on this forum. No offense intended, but you're wrong on this part. Unfortunately I don't have a spreadsheet in front of me, but you must not read a lot of threads about Obama very carefully if you believe that. Are there non-Democrats who can disagree with the President and be respectful? Yes. Are they the majority here? I don't think so. Quote
pagemccartney95 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 No offense intended, but you're wrong on this part. Unfortunately I don't have a spreadsheet in front of me, but you must not read a lot of threads about Obama very carefully if you believe that. Are there non-Democrats who can disagree with the President and be respectful? Yes. Are they the majority here? I don't think so. Oh. Stupid me. , Jo Quote
Hotplant Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 yourself! Just because people criticize the prez doesn't mean they're bashing him! Criticizing means negatively commenting on his actions and decisions; bashing is saying awful, hateful things about him, something I don't think most fair-minded folks will take part in, who I believe make up the majority on this forum. , Jo Oh, thank you lil one for your "explanation" !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many here say awful, hateful things about him. And some are clearly racist. I'm sick of it. I had to speak MY mind. Got a problem with that? HP Quote
pagemccartney95 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Oh, thank you lil one for your "explanation" !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many here say awful, hateful things about him. And some are clearly racist. I'm sick of it. I had to speak MY mind. Got a problem with that? HP No, I'm cool with you speaking your mind. Don't scold me for speaking mine. I apologize for overreacting. It's been a hard day so far for me, okay? :'( Mike Huckabee's reaction: October 09, 2009 - 10:00 AM President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize by Mike Huckabee There will be an outcry from those on the right who will say that Obama's nomination, made two weeks into his Presidency, is impossible to justify but I think such an outcry will sound like right-wing whining. The better response is simply to allow those on the left to explain what he did in his first two weeks as President that merited such recognition. Basically what I did. And I'm sorry. , Jo Edited October 9, 2009 by pagemccartney95 Quote
MarmaladeSkies Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Many here say awful, hateful things about him. And some are clearly racist. Show me one racist post, race baiter. Edited October 9, 2009 by MarmaladeSkies Quote
I have got a horsey Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Yahoo! News By NANCY GIBBS 55 mins ago The last thing Barack Obama needed at this moment in his presidency and our politics is a prize for a promise. But how different is that from Kissinger? The Paris Peace Accord that Kissinger won his for wasn't worth the paper it was written on. It's just the same old story. Is's a honourable gong best given to charities. Obama should've refused it though. But he's a crowd pleaser and he's not good at saying no to people Quote
ZeppFanForever Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I wholly agree with you. Declining to accept the award would demonstrate principled leadership and offset the growing perception he is comfortable with having amounted to little more than a media darling. How's it going "SteveAJones?" Now I've seen everything! Maybe the late Bozo The Clown and the late Lassie will be nominated next year. ROCK ON FOREVER my friend. Quote
ZeppFanForever Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 It went to a clown this year so why not. Thats a good point Steve, I couldn't have said it better myself. ROCK ON FOREVER my friend. Quote
Mona Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I'm personally sick of all the Obama bashing. It's annoying and for the most part unfounded. But your entitled to your opinions, and I'm not here to try to change them. Anyway, I say congratulations to the President. I see why some of you are concerned that he won it, but I'm sure the people who gave it to him have their reasons for choosing him. Cheers. Quote
cryingbluerain Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Anyway, I say congratulations to the President. I see why some of you are concerned that he won it, but I'm sure the people who gave it to him have their reasons for choosing him. Cheers. Yes, it's because he got us out of Iraq! Uh, no. Not yet. He won the war in Afghanistan! Nope. He closed Guantanamo Bay! Not yet. I know, I know... The Beer Summit! Yes, Congrats Obama!! Quote
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