Administrators sam_webmaster Posted September 12, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2010 Computer renderings of Zep's 1973 tour plane and their 1977 plane: by by Ben Hartmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insidiuos Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't understand why they are renderings? We have pictures of the real planes no? Computer renderings of Zep's 1973 tour plane and their 1977 plane: by by Ben Hartmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't understand why they are renderings? We have pictures of the real planes no? There are actual photographs of them parked at various airports but these renderings show them airborne. Outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zep Girl Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I like the '77 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Love the photos! Great work Sam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Computer renderings of Zep's 1973 tour plane and their 1977 plane: by by Ben Hartmann Awesome!! These will surely be new screensavers for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estofest Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 How about some rederings of the parties inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2walsh Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Great pics! You rarely see pics of "Caesar's Chariot" and that is very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetleron Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 i had no idea they had a different plane in 77......cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMachine Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Being a Flight Simulator fan, I'm wondering if these "plane skins" are available .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedjeffy Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 i had no idea they had a different plane in 77......cool More info: http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/the-starship-and-caesars-chariot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 i had no idea they had a different plane in 77......cool I've posted several photos of both aircraft in the Photo Forum...the thread title is something like "Led Zeppelin: The Only Way to Fly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Yeah, the old plane 'Starship' was getting old and had engine troubles. After they broke up, they sold the '77 plane to RATT. Led Zeppelin never owned either plane; both were merely leased to support touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Led Zeppelin never owned either plane; both were merely leased to support touring. Thanks Steve for the verification. Always wondered what happened after their use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsmith9095 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Great photos Sam! Thanks. The Starship was leased from Bobby Sherman and his partner's company created solely for the purpose of leasing planes to rock bands. This is commonly available information but I wanted to reaffirm this particular bit of information. This info was gleaned over multiple discussions with one of the flight attendants early in 2009. Unfortunately the line of communication with her has been broken so there is no additional information to be learned. I still have her contact information but she has taken on a new business venture and has no time for recounting Zep stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Thanks Steve for the verification. Always wondered what happened after their use. The Starship, N7201U (CN: 17907), was the first Boeing 720-022 built. It was delivered to United Airlines on Oct. 05, 1960 and then purchased on Jan. 15, 1973 by Contemporary Entertainment for $750,000. Owner Ward Sylvester, manager of performer Bobby Sherman, spent another $750,000 renovating the interior of The Starship. Inside, the main cabin contained seats and tables, revolving arm chairs, a 30-foot long couch running along the right hand side of the plane opposite the bar, a television set and video cassette player; an electronic organ was built into the bar. At the rear of the plane were two back rooms, one a den with a low couch and pillows on the floor, the other a bedroom, complete with a white fur bedspread and shower room. The Starship was even staffed by two stewardesses, Susie, and attractive eighteen-year old blonde, and Bianca, a twenty-two year old with a dark complexion and a sense of humor. The Starship was again used throughout the entire 1975 U.S. tour (at a cost of $2,500 per hour or $5 per mile - whichever came higher), by which time Bonzo liked to occupy the co-pilot's seat. "He flew us all the way from New York to L.A. once," Peter Grant told a startled fellow traveler on one tour, "He ain't got a license, mind..." The Starship was used by Alice Cooper, Allman Brothers Band, Deep Purple, Elton John, Olivia Newton-John and Peter Frampton on their tours. The Starship was leased by McCulloch Int. in Nov. 1975, repossessed by Bank of America on Nov. 10, 1977, purchased by AeroAmerica on June 21, 1978, subleased as a private plane on Sept. 1978 through Mar. 1979 and then stored at Luton Airport. It was then parted out beginning in July 1982 because it was too corroded for flight. Photo Gallery: http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/the-starship-and-caesars-chariot Caesar's Chariot, N7224U (CN: 18077), the Boeing 720-022 that was subleased on the 1977 tour, rolled out from the assembly line on Dec. 12, 1961 and its first flight on Jan. 16, 1962. It was delivered to United Airlines on Apr. 10, 1962 and was leased to Braniff on May 6, 1972 and was returned to United Airlines on Dec. 31, 1972. It was purchased by Todd Equipment in Mar. 31, 1975 and leased by Desert Palace Inc. and was named Caesars Chariot. Caesar's Chariot was subleased by McCulloch Int. in Aug. 1975 and returned in Sept. 1976. Led Zeppelin subleased Caesar's Chariot in Apr. 1977. After Led Zeppelin returned the plane in July 1977, the Bee Gees used Caesar's Chariot on their 1979 tour, then it returned into service until Boeing Military Airplane Company bought the plane in July 1986 and placed it in Davis-Monthan AFB on Oct. 11, 1986 for KC-135 re-engine and spares support program. It was totally parted out by Feb. 1987, but parts may have been rescued by an aircraft maintenance school. Photo Gallery: http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/the-starship-and-caesars-chariot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Thanks for the great info Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Those computer renderings are AWESOME! I haven't seen any pictures of the '77 tour plane either, thanks for posting them Sam!! Thanks, as always, for the extra information SAJ. What a shame that such historical planes were eventually used for parts and basically junked. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hrsoflunacy Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The chariot on the ground in Louisville, KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedjeffy Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Here is The Starship in the air....... in 1961! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Inside Led Zeppelin’s private jet An NBC Nightly News report from July 31, 1973 awkwardly segues from an introduction about criminal activity to a story about how Led Zeppelin are so rich that they can afford to rent their own private jet. http://youtu.be/7eA4fxQcQTs http://dangerousmind...ghtly_news_1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 ^ nice post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Thanks for that. I have only seen that footage in it's silent form. Pretty awesome, I love the keyboard/bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Man that was a biased report, that reporter was a real twat and of course I love how they quoted Robert out of context after a set up. Looks like NBC were a few decades ahead of the curve with that biased, one sided story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It would be interesting to know if any of the band members ever flew on the Concorde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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