Geezer Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Richards must not be juxtaposed with Page and Beck on this list -- he is much less great than these two. This is how I would arrange the list: 1. Jimi Hendrix 2. Jimmy Page 3. Eric Clapton 4. Jeff Beck 5. B.B. King 6. Stevie Ray Vaughan 7. Chuck Berry 8. Ritchie Blackmore 9. Eddie Van Halen 10. Steve Howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Richards must not be juxtaposed with Page and Beck on this list -- he is much less great than these two. "Greatness" is in the ear of the beerholder. Any list of guitarists would be incomplete without the inclusion of Keith Richards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 "Greatness" is in the ear of the beerholder. Any list of guitarists would be incomplete without the inclusion of Keith Richards. I agree, but I would add: any top ten list of guitarists would be biased with the inclusion of Richards. He just doesn't deserve to be in the top ten of the greatest rock and blues guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 He just doesn't deserve to be in the top ten of the greatest rock and blues guitarists. Actually, he does. Just not in your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkapricorn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Maybe because Jimmy Page isn't ranked as Number One? exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Actually, he does. Just not in your opinion. But then again it's also your opinion, that Keith should be in the top 10. Which I agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You guys are on an Escher stairway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Give me one reason why Richards should be in the top 10 and Blackmore or Howe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dog Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ritchie Blackmore is the greatest of all, with Jimmy Page together. They improvise every solo on every night other. Also they wrote one of the best riffs in rock history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Give me one reason why Richards should be in the top 10 and Blackmore or Howe not. I didn't say anything about Blackmore or Howe not belonging in the top 10. I don't know that I'd include either one of them in mine but if you feel like they belong in yours that's perfectly fine as it all boils down to personal taste. Just because some publication like Rolling Stone (or any of the plethora of other music magazines out there) includes Richards (or someone else you obviously don't like) doesn't mean it's etched in stone. Believe me, everything is going to be ok. The world is not going to suddenly spin off of it's axis because of some list you disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-ocean87 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Give me one reason why Richards should be in the top 10 and Blackmore or Howe not. I always thought that Richards is crap. Never heard him doing a good solo. He is sooo far away from Blackmore and Page. I can't understand the hype about this guy. He is probably the worst guitar player in Rock History, together with Ron Wood. And of course Blackmore belongs in the top 10 of every rock poll. He is a great improviser and technically way better than Page. But Page is better in making a song interesting. He's a real good lick-and rhythm-player, like James Burton (who should be up on top there too!!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I always thought that Richards is crap. Never heard him doing a good solo. He is sooo far away from Blackmore and Page. I can't understand the hype about this guy. He is probably the worst guitar player in Rock History, together with Ron Wood. And of course Blackmore belongs in the top 10 of every rock poll. He is a great improviser and technically way better than Page. But Page is better in making a song interesting. He's a real good lick-and rhythm-player, like James Burton (who should be up on top there too!!!). So riffs and actual songs don't matter, just solos? Blackmore may be a better mechanic than Richards but Richards has built many better cars in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Peter Buck is one of my favorite guitarists but he rarely ever takes any solos. He also came in at #94 on Rolling Stone's list which I'm perfectly ok with because it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Imitation is the best form of flattery. How many bands had guitar players that emulated Keith Richards? Tons of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm fine with Richards being the top 10 but come on, he just doesn't deserve to be on the 4th place. No way he was greater than Beck. Also, I'm fine with Page being at 3, but The Rolling Stones weren't even a bit greater than Zeppelin (musically). Just because some publication like Rolling Stone (or any of the plethora of other music magazines out there) includes Richards (or someone else you obviously don't like) Good word selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm fine with Richards being the top 10 but come on, he just doesn't deserve to be on the 4th place. No way he was greater than Beck. In your opinion. Again, it all comes down to personal taste. Perhaps he was ranked so highly because the group of people that picked him for that slot did so because of his influence, not for his technical prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-ocean87 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 So riffs and actual songs don't matter, just solos? Blackmore may be a better mechanic than Richards but Richards has built many better cars in my opinion. Haven't written that. RIffs are important too. Blackmore wrote a lot of Riffs. "Smoke o.t. w." may be the best riff ever! Come on, what's the deal with Richards?? I was never a fan of the stones and their music, though they have a few great songs. Richards can't hold a candle to Blackmore or Page. I forgot to write that I'm a guitar player myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Haven't written that. RIffs are important too. Blackmore wrote a lot of Riffs. "Smoke o.t. w." may be the best riff ever! Come on, what's the deal with Richards?? I was never a fan of the stones and their music, though they have a few great songs. Richards can't hold a candle to Blackmore or Page. I forgot to write that I'm a guitar player myself. 100% true. Even when it comes to pure influence, Richards isn't even half as influential as Blackmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Come on, what's the deal with Richards?? I was never a fan of the stones and their music, though they have a few great songs. Therein lies the problem. You're admittedly not a fan of the man (or the band he plays in) so it stands to reason that you're going to be biased towards him. Not saying you're right or wrong, just that you're biased. I'm probably the same way, I'm not much on players like Vai or Satriani but I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-ocean87 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Therein lies the problem. You're admittedly not a fan of the man (or the band he plays in) so it stands to reason that you're going to be biased towards him. Not saying you're right or wrong, just that you're biased. I'm probably the same way, I'm not much on players like Vai or Satriani but I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. Of course it's just our opinion. Everybody should have his own! There are a lot of guitar players who are technically great but that I don't like, and there are a lot which I like. Jimmy is one of the sloopiest players ever but one of the greatest in rock history! He "has" if for me what Richards doesn't have. And , also in a technical sense, Richards is far behind Jimmy anyway. So when I hear RIchards play, it gives me nothing. When I hear Jimmy, I know exactly that it is him. And so it is with Blackmore. When I hear Richards it doesn't sound special for me. But why discuss about that? Those lists are always crap!! It's just a matter of popularity. Who knows about Lenny Breau these days?? Or guys like Jerry Reed? In my oppinion, Chet Atkins was the greatest guitar player ever! He wasn't a rock player, but he could play any style. Never seen a player with that range!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Jimmy is one of the sloopiest players ever but one of the greatest in rock history! From 1968 to and including 1975 he wasn't sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianeh! Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Taro, I totally agree. Jimmy became "SLOPPY" if u want to call it that because of one thing only. THE DRUGS. People may disagree but to me that is the reason. He was well known in the early session days as a player who could play virtually any style and do it well. No rock group in the 1970's would be expected to play exactlyas on their records. Just the physical and mental stress of constant touring coupled with the heavy drug use takes it toll. Having lived my early years during the late sixties and seventies I can tell u that it was a wild ride. JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Taro, I totally agree. Jimmy became "SLOPPY" if u want to call it that because of one thing only. THE DRUGS. There's another reason: in 1975, he tore his finger tendon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-ocean87 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 From 1968 to and including 1975 he wasn't sloppy. I think you haven't heard a lot of bootlegs from 1972-1975. On the 1972 Japan Tour he started getting sloopier. In Europe 1973, he reached his peak. After this Tour, his playing was very inconsistent. One night he played like from another planet, the other night he played like a beginner. Southampton 1973 is one of the best sounding bootlegs out there, but Jimmy and Robert aren't on top this night. That's a real shame! Yeah, he hurt his finger in May 1973, just before the Forum show and in early 1975. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnthepage Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Blackmore #50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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