Jahfin Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Call me naive;but what's the deal with the photo?Why do "die-hard fans" hate it so much? I'm guessing they might be offended by Pigpen grabbing her breast. Thing is, Janis herself doesn't seem the least bit offended by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59LesPaul Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 ^ That's what I thought;it doesn't seem offensive to me at all,least of all to Janis herself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 The photo die-hard Janis fans love to hate.......... I'm guessing they might be offended by Pigpen grabbing her breast. Thing is, Janis herself doesn't seem the least bit offended by it. ^ That's what I thought;it doesn't seem offensive to me at all,least of all to Janis herself.... I wouldn't classify myself as a "die-hard" Janis fan but, as a woman (and not a wanton one), I never found that photo (and others like it) offensive. That is just what things were like back then. ftr, I never found the antics that the Zep guys engaged in back in the day offensive either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I wouldn't classify myself as a "die-hard" Janis fan but, as a woman (and not a wanton one), I never found that photo (and others like it) offensive. That is just what things were like back then. ftr, I never found the antics that the Zep guys engaged in back in the day offensive either. YOU said it!!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 ^ That's what I thought;it doesn't seem offensive to me at all,least of all to Janis herself.... Janis was Pigpen's g-friend at thew the time! *WINK* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Funny how someone that supposedly knows so much about Janis doesn't even recognise Pigpen and also doesn't know of his relationship with Janis. I am amazed she would get invlovled with him. I have never read a good story about him. Not a nice guy apprarently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It looks more like Ian Hunter to me....but I might be wrong!! That's Michael sitting in the front row for sure Janis's brother Michael posts on the messageboard of the official Janis site. You can ask him questions and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I am amazed she would get invlovled with him. I have never read a good story about him. Not a nice guy apprarently. I consider myself a pretty big Grateful Dead fan and I can't think of one negative story about Pigpen off the top of my head. To my knowledge he was always well regarded not only by his bandmates but by Dead fans as well. Maybe you're thinking of the Peanuts character. I heard he was a real ass to Peppermint Patty on more than one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelmon Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 ^ That's one of the funniest posts I've ever read by you Jahfin !!! RIGHT ON 'BRO !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Funny how someone that supposedly knows so much about Janis doesn't even recognise Pigpen and also doesn't know of his relationship with Janis. I've not been a Janis fan for long-only a few months. I also don't listen to the Grateful Dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I've not been a Janis fan for long-only a few months. I also don't listen to the Grateful Dead. Thanks for clarifying, I somehow got the impression that you were a big Janis fan and were well versed in her history. As for the Grateful Dead, you really need to fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 YOU said it!!! :) Yes, I did. :) I am amazed she would get invlovled with him. I have never read a good story about him. Not a nice guy apprarently. I consider myself a pretty big Grateful Dead fan and I can't think of one negative story about Pigpen off the top of my head. To my knowledge he was always well regarded not only by his bandmates but by Dead fans as well. Maybe you're thinking of the Peanuts character. I heard he was a real ass to Peppermint Patty on more than one occasion. I never heard anything negative about Pigpen either. He did his share of drugs and suffered from alcoholism. Like Janis, he died young (only a year or two after her death). In one of the Dead bios, there was a discussion about the difficulties he had with acid. I don't remember the name of the book or the details. Pigpen did look rather like a "scary biker dude" and I think that the Hell's Angels made him an official member but I don't ever remember reading or hearing that he was involved with them. Maybe you're thinking of the Peanuts character. I heard he was a real ass to Peppermint Patty on more than one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Thanks for clarifying, I somehow got the impression that you were a big Janis fan and were well versed in her history. As for the Grateful Dead, you really need to fix that. Not really, I read 2 books about her, and when they talked about guys she had seen they don't mention him. They talked about Jim Morrison, but not him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Not really, I read 2 books about her, and when they talked about guys she had seen they don't mention him. They talked about Jim Morrison, but not him. I would say those books really weren't all that informative then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) I wouldn't classify myself as a "die-hard" Janis fan but, as a woman (and not a wanton one), I never found that photo (and others like it) offensive. That is just what things were like back then. ftr, I never found the antics that the Zep guys engaged in back in the day offensive either. Janis looks like the Coolest Chick on Earth in that Pic !!!! Has anyone spoke about Robert says how Janis took him alongside and gave him adivce of things ? ? It was on the Charlie Rose show with in the last year or so, and was on othe old board.... Edited February 5, 2008 by The Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Janis's brother Michael posts on the messageboard of the official Janis site. You can ask him questions and stuff. I know......and Michael's a great guy indeed and Laura, Janis's sister is so sweet.....I've talked to them on the forum and in the forum chatroom many times and I can assure you 100% they both LOVE their sister very, very much :)....and that's how it should be. To all the Janis-haters, I say REPENT NOW.......'tis about time!!! VIVA JANIS, VIVA GRATEFUL DEAD AND REMEMBER, PSYCHEDELIA'S IN WITH TIME!!!![ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Janis looks like the Coolest Chick on Earth in that Pic !!!! Has anyone spoke about Robert says how Janis took him alongside and gave him adivce of things ? ? It was on the Charlie Rose show with in the last year or so, and was on othe old board.... Not here. But I remember it well. Robert had only lovely things to say about Janis. He was very discreet in his responses to Charlie Rose but you could tell from his facial expressions and the way in which he spoke about Janis, that it was a positive encounter. When I first saw Zep, they still had a hippyish vibe about them that I liked. I know that you remember those days too, Rover. Here is a link to that interview: http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2005/05/1...an-robert-plant I have a file of this interview too, Rover. If you want it, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I would say those books really weren't all that informative then. One was Love, Janis by her sister. The other was Scars of Sweet Paradise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 One was Love, Janis by her sister. The other was Scars of Sweet Paradise. That's odd that neither of those mentioned Pigpen but wasn't Love, Janis all reprints of letters from Janis (I think they even made a play out of it)? Can't say I'm familiar with the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Anyone here seen "Love, Janis" the play??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I haven't seen Love, Janis but I'd like to. It hasn't come near me but when it does I'm going to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 When I first saw Zep, they still had a hippyish vibe about them that I liked. I know that you remember those days too, Rover. Yes. MSG, I really do remember seeing Zep for the first time in August of 1970. Very Hippe feel to it all. The boys had just spent time communing together recording LZ III. It was a very Groovy Concert ! Mt first time getting high, albeit, second hand smoke.... a LOT of second hand smoke... That was special time. I remember seeing this chick, down in the floor seating, about 20 rows back....she stood out becuase she had a bid head of blonde hair, and she stood --on the seat of her chair-- rocking and moving and grooving through most of whole concert. I know that the boys must gotten energy for her as well Sad to say, I never got to see Janis in person. But there's always the Monterey Pop Festival footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I saw Janis (the movie) on tv last night. It was great. She was really fun, and she was no dummy either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I saw Janis (the movie) on tv last night. It was great. She was really fun, and she was no dummy either. Gotta concur!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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