The Next President of the USA will be?

[Electrophile]

What the heck is that bulge on half of McCains face???

I know he's had cancer, so it could be related to that.

[~tangerine~]

I know he's had cancer, so it could be related to that.

I hate to sound so mean, but TFLZ just irks me with his stupidity! McCain had melanoma removed and then a graft (which looks quite extensive). Some Physicians have questioned the extent of his cancer due to the size of the work done on his face (although when it comes to melanoma, a much larger area is removed because it's such an aggressive metastic cancer). I'm not meaning to be insensitive to what McCain has gone through, but this is a big reason why his choice of Palin is so urgent. His past health with this awful disease does have significance (not that i want him to be the next President).

[I have got a horsey]

Looking at RCP electoral map, I can't see how McCain can win...

There would have to be significant polling error for McCain to win at this stage.

Obama already has 259 electoral college votes reasonably locked in, states where Obama is leading by over 10 percentage points.

He has 52 votes leaning is his direction, and all he has to do is win 11 of them...which could be say New Mexico and Colorado. Both states currently have Obama 7 percentage points in the lead.

McCain only has 127 votes considered safe. He would have to win all of the votes leaning towards him, that's 15, plus win all of the battle ground too-close-to-call states, plus steal a few Obama-leaning states....

McCain would have to win Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Montana, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Ohio and Virginia to win.

Obama just has to win New Mexico and Colorado, he doesn't even have to touch the battle ground states

[JimmyPage1977]

I have never claimed to know much about the American health care system, and I asked that question to be genuinely informed. I don't critique or condemn the American health care system, I merely ask the question why are a lot of Americans so horrified when a public health care system is mentioned...

So please...ease up on the aggressive attitude, it's unecessary.

Try and direct your aggression into areas where you can at least actually win a trophy or something

You call my reply to your post aggressive?

Unlike you and your leftist buddies, I did not resort to pettiness or name calling, but merely pointed out your ignorance on the issue. Get over yourself.

I find the reply about opening up more universities, so we can have more mediocre dental clinics laughable...... what do you think it's like to have public health care? I prefer the private health care package that I'm earning for myself and my family. It is the best there is on this planet and worth every penny. Gainsbarre and others that have socialized health care systems can tell you how great "public health care" is.... it sucks. It's what you will get with Obama's plan, eventually.

[~tangerine~]

Looking at RCP electoral map, I can't see how McCain can win...

There would have to be significant polling error for McCain to win at this stage.

Obama already has 259 electoral college votes reasonably locked in, states where Obama is leading by over 10 percentage points.

He has 52 votes leaning is his direction, and all he has to do is win 11 of them...which could be say New Mexico and Colorado. Both states currently have Obama 7 percentage points in the lead.

McCain only has 127 votes considered safe. He would have to win all of the votes leaning towards him, that's 15, plus win all of the battle ground too-close-to-call states, plus steal a few Obama-leaning states....

McCain would have to win Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Montana, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Ohio and Virginia to win.

Obama just has to win New Mexico and Colorado, he doesn't even have to touch the battle ground states

We can hope, but then i didn't think Bush would win once and look what happened.

Anyway, i think that McCain knows it's over for him, and is now grasping at straws. While Obama is out reinforcing what he plans to do (especially for our Economy) McCain (and Palin) are out there trying to instill "fear" (nothing new for the Repubs) and just talking shit about Obama.... who do i feel more respect for and have more confidence in? A man who tells me what he plans to do to improve my broken country, with strength and conviction (yes) or a man who is using the old fear tactics (which never work on me) when he's not having a temper tantrum (no thanks, golly gee)...

I don't pray much, but i pray Obama and Biden win this election. Can't wait to place my vote 5 days from now!

btw... the Electorial College looks like a steal for Obama...i just don't want to get excited until the official word is in.

[Electrophile]

According to FiveThirtyEight, Obama is projected to win 340+ electoral votes, and that counts the safe states and the leaning states. Basically, in order for McCain to win, he would need to flip in 5 days, the following states.....without exception:

Virginia

North Carolina

Florida

Pennsylvania

Ohio

Missouri

New Hampshire

Nevada

Colorado

New Mexico

He's also only up by 2 in Arizona and about 3 or 4 in Georgia. Indiana also keeps going back and forth and is projected for McCain by less than 1%. He's playing defense in states that were solidly for Bush in 2004. Not to mention, he keeps campaigning in Pennsylvania, a state projected to go for Obama by double digits. By ignoring these states he desperately needs to make up ground in, he's digging his own grave.

[~tangerine~]

I find the reply about opening up more universities, so we can have more mediocre dental clinics laughable...... what do you think it's like to have public health care? I prefer the private health care package that I'm earning for myself and my family. It is the best there is on this planet and worth every penny. Gainsbarre and others that have socialized health care systems can tell you how great "public health care" is.... it sucks. It's what you will get with Obama's plan, eventually.

I have a great plan myself. I have Personal Choice (Independence Blue Cross/Blue Shield). However, i have seen my copays double each year over the past five or six. I have seen my deductible increase. I have seen the cost i pay (through an employer plan, that happens to be a University Hospital) double over the past five years... and i know the costs will continue to go up every year. In addition, most plans only pay a percentage (my plan pays 90% if i use my Hospital, 80% if i go elsewhere)...this used to be free in the not too distant past.

So my question to you is, do you have an employer paid healthcare benefit? If not, how would you pay for yourself and your family to have "good" coverage? You are talking the amount of some people's mortgage each month. Just for a moment imagine if YOU or your family didn't have healthcare? This is reality for many Americans.

I know Universal healthcare has it's problems...and if we as a country offer healthcare to all our citizens, hopefully we can do it well.

[I have got a horsey]

You call my reply to your post aggressive?

Unlike you and your leftist buddies, I did not resort to pettiness or name calling, but merely pointed out your ignorance on the issue. Get over yourself.

I find the reply about opening up more universities, so we can have more mediocre dental clinics laughable...... what do you think it's like to have public health care? I prefer the private health care package that I'm earning for myself and my family. It is the best there is on this planet and worth every penny. Gainsbarre and others that have socialized health care systems can tell you how great "public health care" is.... it sucks. It's what you will get with Obama's plan, eventually.

Yeah you are very aggressive, and I think you have issues with your aggressiveness, it's unecessary.

And our public health care system is fine, I've used it on a few ocassions

Again you have no idea what you're talking about.

Back on ignore for you.

[THE FIRST LEDZEP]

Dewey Defeats Truman

[Mary Hartman]

I'm still trying to understand what makes anyone think America would put all persons who need health care in the Magical Medi-Vac and ship them to Canada or anywhere else if we ever got a 'Universal Health Care,' plan to begin with.

Other countries are looked at as a model approach, not an de facto blueprint of exactly how we should approach health care

It's been explained you could keep your current health care insurance many times

However if anyone insists on going to the United Kingdom or Canada for health care when injured I'm sure they will be proud to help you with your ills

Because they don't view someones death better than helping them stay alive and well. However I do feel they will look at you kind of odd unless it happens when you are visiting or you do it because their medical professional/surgeon in better than any we have here. Many people from other countries come here for major surgeries because we still have the best health care and surgeons

But adopting a health care plan which works better, cuts costs and helps prevent over charging the government because you cannot keep track of it I don't think will drive all the best medical professionals to a new country.

It's a model, not us BLUEPRINTING someone else's design

[Rock Action]

Why do they even have to say god bless america? I thought religion was personal. I'm not interested in their religion (or lack thereof) anymore than I'm interested in who they're porking.

The say it like we'll really get blessed or something. Yeah right.

The only thing we've been "blessed" with is bullshit.

[marolyn]

I find the reply about opening up more universities, so we can have more mediocre dental clinics laughable...... .

glad you got the joke...found your suggestion of dental schools providing the answer for all of the uninsured just as funny!!!

[marolyn]

The only thing we've been "blessed" with is bullshit.

some more than others...

[Medhb]

Why do they even have to say god bless america? I thought religion was personal. I'm not interested in their religion (or lack thereof) anymore than I'm interested in who they're porking.

In all honesty, I don't see where that should insult anyone except an athiest and I'm sure they could bite the bullet for the majority. In my mind, anyone who believes in a higher power believes in a 'God'. God goes by many, many, many different names.....to each his own.

If Obama came out tomorrow and said he was Wiccan?! I'd be even prouder of him than I am now!

I believe in the Goddess too but don't get all bent out of shape that our money says "In God we Trust". I also don't think the pledge of allegiance should no longer be recited because of the words "One nation under God" Now people of the Jewish faith would have a hard time with that only because the word God cannot pass their lips or be written, but I'm sure there are many ways around that.

[Medhb]

Dick Morris has the best argument against Obama Health care.

Obama keeps stating he wants to give health care to 48 million people. 12 million of which are illegal aliens. There is no denying that fact. Every study on that has came to the conclusion that 12 million illegal aliens are going to get federally funded health insurance. The problem is Obama plans does not include more doctors, nurses, and hospitals to cover any part of the 48 million people. So now you have 48 million people now on health insurance (12 million illegals), who don't have the equal numbers of doctors added too. So now a 72 year old man can now be told, he would have to wait for that MRI, he will have to wait for that transplant, he will have to wait for that surgery, because a younger border jumper is in more need of what you need.

I will be putting in over 40 years in my trade. My blood, sweat, and tears. So i can have health insurance and someone asshole is going to give it for free to someone who climbed a fence.

Ill give it to kids, but call me when college tuition goes down and malpractice lawsuits have a cap at 2 million.

PB, we agree for once! I tend towards these feeling also. Too many Dr.s are just quitting their practices becuase the malpractice insurance is too high. People that REALLY have a suit often don't file because they are more concerned with their condition than money. A LOT of the people who do file get WAYYYYY more money than the situation calls for. I believe a cap is a good idea.

All childrens should have health care. I also agree though...that someone who was born in this country, paid taxes all their lives, put money into social security, etc. should get a higher priority on the health front than an illegal alien. This is only one area where I don't agree with the Democrats.

Still, I will be voting for Obama (for those of you that don't know )

[Medhb]

I can't believe that in the 21st Century you seriously have candidates pulling 'God' stunts like that to win an election.

It;s quite disturbing really because it shows obviously that to run a campaign in that part of America you have to believe in God, then next step on from that is of course you have to believe in the same God, I mean how different, really, is that from the attitude in some Islamic countries?

Exactly. As long as there is intolerance, there will be wars.

[wanna be drummer]

Every American citizen should have a "right" to healthcare. As for illegals, well what the hell did Bush do about that problem the last eight years?

Every American citizen should have the responsibly of getting health care

[Medhb]

The say it like we'll really get blessed or something. Yeah right.

The only thing we've been "blessed" with is bullshit.

IMHO - WE were blessed with a lot...and WE f*cked it all up. (Not Americans...people)

[Rock Action]

IMHO - WE were blessed with a lot...and WE f*cked it all up. (Not Americans...people)

That's more accurate than my statement, honestly.

And yes, for those who like to point solely at America for all the world's problems: Fuck you.

Every nation on the planet is at least partially responsible for our woes.

[I have got a horsey]

I think the USA has missed the boat on Universal Health Care anyway. It's something that should've been considered 50 years ago. But with the cold war and the USA feeling the necessity to fight an ideological war, it steered well clear of anything that could be remotely associated with 'socialism'

[marolyn]

But with the cold war and the USA feeling the necessity to fight an ideological war, it steered well clear of anything that could be remotely associated with 'socialism'

what do you think about the alaskan government taking control of the natural resources of their state and then distributing checks to the alaskan people???

maybe all the other state governments should take control of their natural resources...coal, iron ore, timber, water, or whatever and distribute the profits to the citizens of their state...after all, palin is promoting this as one of her greatest accomplishments...maybe it's the way of the future in the u.s.

[Mary Hartman]

I think the USA has missed the boat on Universal Health Care anyway. It's something that should've been considered 50 years ago. But with the cold war and the USA feeling the necessity to fight an ideological war, it steered well clear of anything that could be remotely associated with 'socialism'

The facts and the statistics are as they are. Good luck getting most of the AMA and ANA to believe cheap insults like calling someone who cares about people and their health care socialist.

They are as the are cheap dirty fucking liars who will do anything to pass along the buck.

And why should any of us be surprised?

They are on their way OUT?

[Medhb]

what do you think about the alaskan government taking control of the natural resources of their state and then distributing checks to the alaskan people???

maybe all the other state governments should take control of their natural resources...coal, iron ore, timber, water, or whatever and distribute the profits to the citizens of their state...after all, palin is promoting this as one of her greatest accomplishments...maybe it's the way of the future in the u.s.

I thought I was the only one who saw the irony of that situation. Especially when she DID accept big governement funds for the bridge to nowhere - they just used it for 'other things'....maybe like giving each Alaskan a couple of grand?

[marolyn]

Exxon Breaks Record Profit

oooooooooh...can you feel it trickle down?

[Rock Action]

Exxon Breaks Record Profit

oooooooooh...can you feel it trickle down?

Of course they did. That's a no-brainer. Bloody rapists...