Silver Rider Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) His false air of superiority does not make a persuasive argument. Lady Gaga's generous use of costume reminds me a little bit of Loie Fuller. wiki/Loie_Fuller Edited June 16, 2011 by Silver Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I had never heard of her before. I'm sure Gaga knows about her. She is a scholar of the history of the arts of all genres. Thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersandsnakes Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Sorry Walter all is forgiven, i missed this post, i'll take it on the chin, i've never failed an exam, never ever, so Spider what do you base calling me a "Dunce" on then me ole cobber? And please leave My Knebby alone, she is a wonderful Lady who has seen right through me as others seldom do, to me she is Forum Royalty, much more so than SAJ. Regards, Danny Dunce is not a dirty word ya know 'ol POM:):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 An insult is an insult, doesn't have to be a "dirty" word - semantics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAN Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 An insult is an insult, doesn't have to be a "dirty" word - semantics. Hi Walter, Spider would have a hard job insulting me, its WALTER of a ducks back to me, whatever he says i take no offence, its just a shame others cant react like that to petty taunts, you know who you are dont you? Kind Regards, Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersandsnakes Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 An insult is an insult, doesn't have to be a "dirty" word - semantics. Saying that my students should have a better teacher than me is an insult too ....or maybe that doesn't count here?!?!?!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 That was not me making that statement, I have a lot of respect for the teaching profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) Saying that my students should have a better teacher than me is an insult too ....or maybe that doesn't count here?!?!?!:) My comment was "Your pupils deserve better" - and I meant FROM you , not than you. Your students deserve for you to accept when you are wrong, and learn from it, so that you can be better at teaching them. That's the LEAST they should expect. People don't resent those who make mistakes - they do resent those who refuse to learn from them. Edited June 17, 2011 by Knebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not that this will sway the loon, as he seems to have made up his mind regarding Lady GaGa, damn any evidence contrary to his opinion...but here's a couple clips that show LGG can do a lot more than dance or dress up. Singing for the Queen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 She's not my style but Mrs Ally likes her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersandsnakes Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 My comment was "Your pupils deserve better" - and I meant FROM you , not than you. Your students deserve for you to accept when you are wrong, and learn from it, so that you can be better at teaching them. That's the LEAST they should expect. People don't resent those who make mistakes - they do resent those who refuse to learn from them. What you're saying is HIGHLY disputable. Are you a teacher/educator? What do you know of this field and what it implies both for teachers and students?! I've been working in this field for over 30 years and I can safely say my students prefer me to many other colleagues who only do this profession for the pay and/or to dogmatize their students in order to manipulate their ideas and thoughts:)!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersandsnakes Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not that this will sway the loon, as he seems to have made up his mind regarding Lady GaGa, damn any evidence contrary to his opinion...but here's a couple clips that show LGG can do a lot more than dance or dress up. Singing for the Queen: I don't see any loons to sway here unless it is YOU:):)!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersandsnakes Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 That was not me making that statement, I have a lot of respect for the teaching profession. Who said it was you??!! It's not a question of respecting the profession but of debating correctly :)!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Ah, "Speechless" my favorite song of hers. The song is partially about her father not going to get heart surgery to save his life and also about her on/off again boyfriend. After hearing the song, her father had the procedure performed, which was only days away from taking his life. The first clip doesn't come up on my phone, do you know what song it is? Thanks for posting them! Also, after reading my earlier post again, I want to make it clear to Knebby that I was not inferring that you were being disrespectul to the teaching profession. It kinda sounded like that to me when I reread it. I purely meant that I take responsibility for my comments alone and stand by everyone of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Also, after reading my earlier post again, I want to make it clear to Knebby that I was not inferring that you were being disrespectul to the teaching profession. It kinda sounded like that to me when I reread it. I purely meant that I take responsibility for my comments alone and stand by everyone of them. Understood and not a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Who said it was you??!! It's not a question of respecting the profession but of debating correctly :)!!!! You quoted me when making your assertion, correct? Debating is not shouting everyone down, it's formulating...why bother?!? I gave you respect early on, you chose to go where you did...and it wasn't a debate either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Understood and not a problem Here's one back to ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I just read something where Gaga is going to be taking over Paul O'Grady in the UK and performing 5 songs. Anyone know what that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I just read something where Gaga is going to be taking over Paul O'Grady in the UK and performing 5 songs. Anyone know what that is? I know she is on his show tonight. Will take a look . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) I think she does pretty much take over and it says she'll perform 4 songs. xx Edited June 17, 2011 by Knebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Thanks for checking for me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hope you get to see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rider Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) I had never heard of her before. I'm sure Gaga knows about her. She is a scholar of the history of the arts of all genres. Thanks for the link! You're welcome! It's the interplay of lighting and costume that characterizes the Fuller influence on how dance was staged. Lady Gaga is much more modern. You can see some of Alvin Ailey's influence in her choreography. nga.gov/exhibitions/2005/toulouse/stars The late nineteenth century was a transitional period for stage lighting. Gaslight and limelight had been used for most of the century but carried the risk of fire, as well as unpleasant odors and heat. Electric light, made possible by Thomas Edison's invention of a practical electric lamp in 1879, offered a solution. First introduced on a Paris stage in 1882, the new lighting gradually replaced gaslight and limelight. While electric light provided a safer alternative, the rudimentary technology had not yet improved the harsh and often unflattering illumination of its predecessors, which exaggerated an aged performers' facial characteristics. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In addition to Bruant and La Goulue, performers such as Marcelle Lender, Jane Avril, Yvette Guilbert, Loïe Fuller, May Milton, and May Belfort were popular subjects for Lautrec and his contemporaries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce5pQkUZdWI Edited June 17, 2011 by Silver Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouillon Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Well I just saw her on Paul O'Grady. She seemed thoroughly nice, but I have to say some of the music sucked. A couple sounded like bad Aerosmith songs. She's pretty hot, too. Ok, she could do with some lipo on those thighs, and I can't believe she hasn't had a nose-job yet, but yeah, she got the ol' mercury rising. Is she really a rug-muncher? What a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAN Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) Well I just saw her on Paul O'Grady. She seemed thoroughly nice, but I have to say some of the music sucked. A couple sounded like bad Aerosmith songs. She's pretty hot, too. Ok, she could do with some lipo on those thighs, and I can't believe she hasn't had a nose-job yet, but yeah, she got the ol' mercury rising. Is she really a rug-muncher? What a waste. Well your Avatar tells me you are a "Shirtlifter" unless my Gaydar has gone down? so why would you worry about her choice of Fun? Kind Regards, Danny Edited June 17, 2011 by BIGDAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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