reswati Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It's official, The original lineup of Black Sabbath will reform in 2012 and put out a new album produced by Rick Rubin, followed by a world tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dog Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I don't need them..boring. Ozzy can not sing and perform anymore. Totally wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well, I just saw Ozzy a couple of months ago, he was great. I'd worry more about Bill Ward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Everything Rick Rubin touches, turns to gold. This could be worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luvlz2 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Yeah, who wants to see guys in their mid 60's trying to re-live past glories............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kid Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 If they come to NZ I'll see them for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Download 2012 http://youtu.be/bq_cwvmCfB8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2walsh Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 This tour and album should be great! I believe the tour will start in May in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyPhantom Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I am looking forward to it, i am not expecting the album to be as good as Paranoid nor am I expecting them to sound like they did all those years ago....but I want the chance to see these guys. Geezer Butler is a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetleron Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 hopefully the newly reformed culture club will open for them........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Everything Rick Rubin touches, turns to gold. This could be worth checking out. Agreed 100% Yeah, who wants to see guys in their mid 60's trying to re-live past glories............. It goes both ways. Judas Priest and Rush are still delivering 1st rate performances. Same with The Cult. I've seen others that are literally a mere shell of whatever they once were, pretty much propped up onstage to capitalize on what little appeal they may have once had. Charlie Daniels and Marshall Tucker come to mind. That being said, I would lean towards predicting this will be a pretty legit reunion. I'd definitely go if it comes anywhere within a couple hours of me (ATL, Charlotte, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 TypO: my comment about their reunion was sarcastic. Personally speaking I think they should record and tour again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 TypO: my comment about their reunion was sarcastic. Personally speaking I think they should record and tour again. D'OH!!! My bad, lulz. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Yeah, who wants to see guys in their mid 60's trying to re-live past glories............. I'm looking forward to the new album... more than the tour. Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler are playing as well as ever. I think using an outside producer is a very good idea...this way it won't (shouldn't) sound like an Ozzy solo album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm looking forward to the album as well but unfortunately it's become a bit cliched now to use Rick Rubin as the go-to producer for the "late career comeback album" (well, I guess it was either him or T Bone Burnett). That said, I'm still interested in hearing the album ZZ Top have been working on with Rick Rubin for the past 3-4 years or so (that's supposed to also include contributions from the Black Keys). So far, they've released only one single from it, yet there's no complete record for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 http://www.billward.com/ Los Angeles, CA – February 2, 2012 Dear Sabbath Fans, Fellow Musicians and Interested Parties, At this time, I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a “signable” contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band. Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony, Ozzy and Geezer. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another “unsignable” contract was handed to me. Let me say that although this has put me in some kind of holding pattern, I am packed and ready to leave the U.S. for England. More importantly, I definitely want to play on the album, and I definitely want to tour with Black Sabbath. Since the news of Tony’s illness, and the understanding that the band would move production to the U.K., I’ve spent everyday getting to or living in a place of readiness to leave. That involves something of a task, and as I’ve tried to find out what’s going on with the U.K. sessions, I’ve realized that I’ve been getting “the cold shoulder” (and, I might add, not for the first time). Feeling somewhat ostracized, my guess is as of today, I will know nothing of what’shappening unless I sign “the unsignable contract.” The place I’m in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on. If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician. I believe in freedom and freedom of speech. I grew up in a hard rock/metal band. We stood for something then, and we played from the heart with honesty and sincerity. I am in the spirit of integrity, far from the corporate malady, I am real and honest, fair and compassionate. If I’m replaced, I have to face you, the beloved Sabbath fans. I hope you will not hold me responsible for the failure of an original Black Sabbath lineup as promoted. Without fault finding, I want to assure everyone that my loyalty to Sabbath is intact. So here I am. I lay my truth down before you. I’m good to go IF I get a “signable” contract. I don’t want to let anyone down, especially Black Sabbath and all the Sabbath fans. You know I love you. It would be a sad day in Rock if this current situation fell to the desires of a few. My position is not greed-driven. I’m not holding out for a “big piece” of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I’d like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago. After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I’ve brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning. That’s the story so far. Stay safe and stay strong. I love every single one of you. –Bill Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 THAT SUCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dog Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Only one concert this year. I have a ticket for Dortmund this year....Now they don't play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastSpartan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Deciding to bump this thread instead of making a new one. What is everyones opinion about Bill Ward not being here and having Tommy Cluefetos in instead? Also, do you have high hopes for more tour dates next year and the new album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 THAT SUCKS! ^At this point, without Ward it's not worth it and with Iommi's health concerns I highly doubt more tour dates will happen. Plus it's not a reunion anyway....should've seen them during OzzFest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Without Ward, I have no desire to get that excited about anything they do live or in the studio. I love Bill Ward. He's like the JPJ's of Sabbath. The unsung hero. I think he's a great drummer and he always had such admiration for John Bonham. Without Ward behind the kit or second runner-up Vinny Appice-it's like a really good cover band. Ozzy's not so "fit" this day in age himself-aside from Tony. Maybe they should have left things alone after the departure of Ronnie James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I also don't think it's a true reunion without the presence of Bill Ward but from all of the reviews I've read (from fans and critics alike), they seem to be getting along just fine without him, especially as evidenced by this clip of them performing "Paranoid" which was shot back in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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