Balthazor Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Anyone know where those Plant performances were from. He seems to acknowledge his failing in the second clip. Is Meatloaf well? That feels worse than a bad night on stage. Some performances were just weird.The second one was from Toronto, 08/18/69 during You Shook Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stairway is NOT stolen Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Kiwi_Zep_Fan87 said: I think my ears have just started to bleed I would love to hear a soundboard of that, so I can properly hear what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Kiwi_Zep_Fan87 said: I think my ears have just started to bleed Well, Jimmy is out of tune and Robert's voice is cracking, and, Robert seems kinda out of it. What I find funny is it seems, to me, Bonham & Jones keep changing the beat & coming in early / late in what appears to be an effort to fuck with Jimmy intentionally. The beginning of this song though is the best I have ever heard, very different and spacey. Overall, the version IMO is pretty good and funny at the same time. In fact at the very beginning when the crowd goes crazy right after the song takes off from the opening arpeggio, Jimmy sounds like the crowd scared the shit outta him. For me this song is a glorious mess, I actually really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Thank you for the information about the gigs in the clip. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 On 1/9/2016 at 10:37 PM, IpMan said: Well, Jimmy is out of tune and Robert's voice is cracking, and, Robert seems kinda out of it. What I find funny is it seems, to me, Bonham & Jones keep changing the beat & coming in early / late in what appears to be an effort to fuck with Jimmy intentionally. The beginning of this song though is the best I have ever heard, very different and spacey. Overall, the version IMO is pretty good and funny at the same time. In fact at the very beginning when the crowd goes crazy right after the song takes off from the opening arpeggio, Jimmy sounds like the crowd scared the shit outta him. For me this song is a glorious mess, I actually really like it. Actually Jimmy was standing too close to the flashpots at the start of the song, when they went off it knocked him on his ass and freaked him out a bit. You are right, though- the Tempe version of "Achilles Last Stand" sounds like four guys who all know how the song goes but have never played it together before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azapro911 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Oh it's GOT to be Live Aid. For years I kept hearing the legends about how shocking it was and kept thinking: "Neh, it'll just be an exaggeration, the hype was too great, I'm sure it was okay really." Then I finally got to watch it. Gawd......and frankly Phil Collins doesn't deserve the vast chunk of blame he gets either. I don't know precisely what Jimmy was on at the time, but he'd taken plenty of it by the time this Led Zeppelin cabaret act had stumbled onto the stage. Considering the way his 'Stairway' solo started, it's no wonder that Plant cut him off early... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyGirl Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Oh man Live Aid. All kinds of wrong with that one. Somebody on Youtube thought it was"The blonde guy from Hall & Oates with Susan Boyle on guitar." Ooh and how about the guy talking in-between who is dressed like Richard Simmons. Nothing screams the 80's more than tight shorts riding up a dudes butt. If anything Live Aid is just one of those moments I bet they try and forget happened. They got it right at the O2 concert though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmsofAtlas1977 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Achille's Last Stand at Tempe, no contest. Absolutely fascinating display of failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks of Fire Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Biggest live fail was not plugging in a decent reel-to-reel deck at every show and recording the performances nor having a roadie shoot a couple full shows from each tour on 8mm or 16mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said: Biggest live fail was not plugging in a decent reel-to-reel deck at every show and recording the performances nor having a roadie shoot a couple full shows from each tour on 8mm or 16mm. Well, yeah, there's that too I wonder if Jimmy Page in particular regrets nowadays that they didn't professionally film/record more gigs than they did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renounce Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 On 29/01/2016 at 5:02 PM, Sticks of Fire said: Biggest live fail was not plugging in a decent reel-to-reel deck at every show and recording the performances nor having a roadie shoot a couple full shows from each tour on 8mm or 16mm. Totally concur. It baffles me how few Zeppelin shows were professionally recorded. The band evolved fast, their sound and musical personality changed quickly from tour to tour. History was being made, each show was unique, new ground was being broken continuously (especially in the earlier years) and yet so little of it survives in multitrack. Surely the band realised at the time that these incredible moments on stage would never come again. Jimmy was / is the archivist of the band, yet he chose to record and preserve so little. Why? As you mentioned, they could so easliy have just taken a stack of reel-to-reel tape on tour and recorded from the board like the Grateful Dead, if only for their own posterity, and part with some cash to record a few professionally. I've played in bands and known a lot of musicians and even the crappiest garage band usually want to record their shows on some kind of device so they can listen back later. Why would the greatest rock and roll band ever just allow musical gold to disappear the moment it is played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddey Dhoo Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 On 1/29/2016 at 8:02 PM, Sticks of Fire said: Biggest live fail was not plugging in a decent reel-to-reel deck at every show and recording the performances nor having a roadie shoot a couple full shows from each tour on 8mm or 16mm. At least we have the bizillion bootleg recordings to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 On 1/30/2016 at 7:13 AM, Moddey Dhoo said: At least we have the bizillion bootleg recordings to listen to. True, but there are some fantastic performances that unfortunately only circulate on mediocre audience tapes that would really benefit from at least a soundboard recording, never mind multitrack or professionally shot film- though a pro-shot film of something like any of the 1977 LA shows would be a godsend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldhipi Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 1/28/2016 at 10:31 PM, Azapro911 said: Oh it's GOT to be Live Aid. For years I kept hearing the legends about how shocking it was and kept thinking: "Neh, it'll just be an exaggeration, the hype was too great, I'm sure it was okay really." Then I finally got to watch it. Gawd......and frankly Phil Collins doesn't deserve the vast chunk of blame he gets either. I don't know precisely what Jimmy was on at the time, but he'd taken plenty of it by the time this Led Zeppelin cabaret act had stumbled onto the stage. Considering the way his 'Stairway' solo started, it's no wonder that Plant cut him off early... I disagree, i think Phil Collins totally ruined it, he had no clue on the arrangement of the songs, especially WLL. I mean the least you could do when playing a huge gig with Led Zeppelin is to learn the songs. The other drummer (forgot his name) could have done a great job if Phil wouldnt have played total nonesence over the real arrangements. Im not saying that Jimmy, Robert or Jonesy were excellent. But Collins ruined it. Totally selfish of his part to have played with them without learning the songs, and even worse playing over the other drummer, who is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stairway is NOT stolen Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Not multi tracking any 77 gigs. I mean, what were they thinking? Zeppelin know they always did a great show in the LA Forum, so why not record their entire 6 shows there? Or at least one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks of Fire Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 2/2/2016 at 3:42 AM, Nutrocker said: True, but there are some fantastic performances that unfortunately only circulate on mediocre audience tapes that would really benefit from at least a soundboard recording, never mind multitrack or professionally shot film- though a pro-shot film of something like any of the 1977 LA shows would be a godsend! You'd think some of this would not have to even come out of the bands pocket. It could have be written into the contract with the record company for each tour budget that the record company pays for a few nights of recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I could be wrong but wasn't the other drummer Tony Thompson who played in Chic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 16 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said: You'd think some of this would not have to even come out of the bands pocket. It could have be written into the contract with the record company for each tour budget that the record company pays for a few nights of recording. i don't think the money was the issue- I think it was more of a case of the band simply not wanting to be filmed (or more specifically, Peter Grant not wanting the band to be filmed). Also, if Atlantic were to pony up the dough for a mobile truck to multitrack a few gigs, I think Atlantic would own the rights to the recordings and could therefore put them out as they wished, no matter how good, bad or indifferent the recorded shows were. And we know Page- if he can't have complete control over the recording, it ain't happening. 15 hours ago, anniemouse said: I could be wrong but wasn't the other drummer Tony Thompson who played in Chic. I think you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckman Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 15 hours ago, anniemouse said: I could be wrong but wasn't the other drummer Tony Thompson who played in Chic. yes he was...Tony was tipped by certain press people as one of the possible heirs to the drum throne after Bonzo died. Tony was a huge Bonzo fan and while his Chic recordings don't reveal this, his work for his one off project The Power Station with Robert Palmer and the two Duran Duran brothers shows a remarkable resemblance to the huge Bonzo sound I remember Cozy Powell andCarmine Appice were also cited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonial Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 On 2015-06-27 at 1:39 PM, Stairway is NOT stolen said: Not performing The Rover live in it's fullest This. Endless tease, beginning with my favourite song from PG and then segueing into arguably my least favourite (BWS being more of an oddity). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klape Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 A little fail of bonham, wrong song haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 ^Flubbed intro of course, and they get off track again around 10:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Sathington Willoughby said: ^Flubbed intro of course, and they get off track again around 10:12. 10:12 - jeeeez that's horrible. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 10 hours ago, rm2551 said: 10:12 - jeeeez that's horrible. LOL. haha yea I forgot just how bad it was, feels like it takes them forever to get it back on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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