INTERNET RUMORS ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA'S RACIST COMMENTS

[Bong-Man]

If we can trust the polls, 49% of white women have a basic distrust of Obama. I'm guessing that some of those feelings stem from the fallout of Hillary losing, and the harshness of that campaign. Either way, the Obama camp has to take a stat like that seriously. If such a tape exists, it certainly won't help his cause.

Doesn't matter to me....he'll still get my vote, as would any Democrat running.

[mos6507]

Quick share....

I've met Karl Rove and he was the nicest man, hahahaha.

Did you meet him here?

[Mrs. Plant]

Did you meet him here?

I'll have to look at that later, at work and youtube is prohibited!!

[Rorer714]

But they still would. No one would care if a black politician bitches about white people but if it were the other way around America would flip.

There is a Congressional Black Caucus. But if some Congressman meant to start a Congressional White Caucus, the media would crucify him/her.

BET = Black Entertainment Television

I dare you to even try to set up a WET, and tell the country you are doing so. Know what reaction you'd get?

It might not be fair but when you take a race of people and enslave them for as long as they were,I would expect the ramifications to last quite along time.I would imagine it would be hard to "just get over it".In context,it wasn't THAT long ago.We probably won't see end of it all...I've raised my children to hate NO ONE,that's where it starts.

Almost all TV is WET,has been from the beginning

[Mrs. Plant]

It might not be fair but when you take a race of people and enslave them for as long as they were,I would expect the ramifications to last quite along time.I would imagine it would be hard to "just get over it".In context,it wasn't THAT long ago.We probably won't see end of it all...I've raised my children to hate NO ONE,that's where it starts.

Almost all TV is WET,has been from the beginning

It's not happening to them now, not in our country, and our generation isn't doing it.

Sure, its a sad fact, but holding a grudge for something they aren't going through against people that have nothing to do with it is ridiculous.

[eternal light]

Then how the hell did Bush get elected?

The people had worse choices than him, and the majority picked him instead.

He's challenged in the Office of the President of the United States. I can't say that he has entirely met that challenge as I would have hoped he would. He relies heavily on his Vice President, Dick Cheney.

I ask myself what Teddy Roosevelt would have done in the same circumstances. He had a reputation for maintaining an independent relationship with his cabinet while exercising control where he determined he should, and for steering clear of excessive external influence over his decisions.

Edited June 9, 2008 by eternal light

[Rorer714]

It's not happening to them now, not in our country, and our generation isn't doing it.

Sure, its a sad fact, but holding a grudge for something they aren't going through against people that have nothing to do with it is ridiculous.

Discrimination was huge when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's,it still goes on and so does the hatred.I STILL see it every day.So don't say that it doesn't happen in our country.

[Jahfin]

On the Prine tip I've always been a huge fan of this song penned by Little Steven Van Zandt that's been recorded by Jackson Browne, David Lindley and others:

I Am A Patriot

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

I was walking with my brother

And he wondered what's on my mind

I said what I believe in my soul

Ain't what I see with my eyes

And we can't turn our backs this time

I am a patriot

And I love my county

Because my country is all I know

I want to be with my family

The people who understand me

I've got nowhere else to go

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

And I was talking with my sister

She looked so fine

I said, "Baby, what's on your mind?"

She said, "I want to run like the lion

Released from the cages

Released from the rages

Burning in my heart tonight"

And I ain't no communist

And I ain't no capitalist

And I ain't no socialist

And I ain't no imperialist

And I ain't no democrat

And I sure as hell ain't no republican

I only know one party

And it is freedom

I am, I am, I am

I am a patriot

And I love my country

Because my country is all I know

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

And the river opens for the righteous...

[Pb Derigable]

This sucks, I have nothing to do at work except some paper work. Nobama is on the tv and he is discussing the economy. Within 30sec, of the start of the speech, he stared the,"what about the guy in Penn, who can't afford a new muffler for his car's."

I turned it off, I'm sure it will be a blame game and no solution except take money form people who earned it and give it to those who refuse to earn it.

I would like to hear a speech from some politician without these stupid ploys.

[Rorer714]

On the Prine tip I've always been a huge fan of this song penned by Little Steven Van Zandt that's been recorded by Jackson Browne, David Lindley and others:

I Am A Patriot

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

I was walking with my brother

And he wondered what's on my mind

I said what I believe in my soul

Ain't what I see with my eyes

And we can't turn our backs this time

I am a patriot

And I love my county

Because my country is all I know

I want to be with my family

The people who understand me

I've got nowhere else to go

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

And I was talking with my sister

She looked so fine

I said, "Baby, what's on your mind?"

She said, "I want to run like the lion

Released from the cages

Released from the rages

Burning in my heart tonight"

And I ain't no communist

And I ain't no capitalist

And I ain't no socialist

And I ain't no imperialist

And I ain't no democrat

And I sure as hell ain't no republican

I only know one party

And it is freedom

I am, I am, I am

I am a patriot

And I love my country

Because my country is all I know

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

And the river opens for the righteous

Someday

And the river opens for the righteous...

Great tune Jahfin!!!

[Mrs. Plant]

Discrimination was huge when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's,it still goes on and so does the hatred.I STILL see it every day.So don't say that it doesn't happen in our country.

Im saying slavery doesnt happen in our country. Thinking you are owed for something that your great great great great grandparents went through is obsurd.

I don't go around thinking I am owed for things that happened to my Jewish or Irish relatives.

Everyone, every race, is discriminated against.

I was discriminated against at Target a few months ago for cryin out loud.

My point is that I am sick and tired of people that think that only WHITE people can be racist.

[Rorer714]

Im saying slavery doesnt happen in our country. Thinking you are owed for something that your great great great great grandparents went through is obsurd.

I don't go around thinking I am owed for things that happened to my Jewish or Irish relatives.

Everyone, every race, is discriminated against.

I was discriminated against at Target a few months ago for cryin out loud.

My point is that I am sick and tired of people that think that only WHITE people can be racist.

I know what you meant.I don't think that it's a matter of being "owed" but a matter of respect and equality and I don't think that is going to happen in our lifetime....Do you think that the Jews or the Irish got respect or equality in such a short amount of time.Time eventually heals,we still have to bear the brunt of this mess,like it or not.

[wanna be drummer]

I know what you meant.I don't think that it's a matter of being "owed" but a matter of respect and equality and I don't think that is going to happen in our lifetime....Do you think that the Jews or the Irish got respect or equality in such a short amount of time.Time eventually heals,we still have to bear the brunt of this mess,like it or not.

Time heals all wounds, but when an entire race of people are fighting against discrimination when they themselves are also guilty of it, it could take an extremely long time for wounds to heal.

MLK fought for color-blindedness while Shaprton and co. fight for segregation.

Maybe the KKK should vote Democrat

[alwizard03]

No they were not,sir

Well I always did the Rorer's but when they got bought out and changed the name heck I would smoke some pot drink some beer and pop two of them and it was all good.But when the lemmon version came out well We all took two and one guy was eating grass another ran his head into a car an knocked his self out .I wound up carry his girlfriend all the way down tiche beach to his van and having wild sex. No He does not know .Well He didnt and You better not tell Him.

[Rorer714]

Time heals all wounds, but when an entire race of people are fighting against discrimination when they themselves are also guilty of it, it could take an extremely long time for wounds to heal.

MLK fought for color-blindedness while Shaprton and co. fight for segregation.

Maybe the KKK should vote Democrat

I'm thinking that when we all interbreed and EVERYONE is grey,who is going to be left to hate?

What do ya think?100yrs?1000yrs?It's going to happen....

It all comes back to "Teach your children well" Don't be so extreme.

I know that it takes both sides to agree and there are many like me on both sides and many like you.It'll eventually come out in the wash and it's usually "grey" (without bleach or dye)

[Rorer714]

Well I always did the Rorer's but when they got bought out and changed the name heck I would smoke some pot drink some beer and pop two of them and it was all good.But when the lemmon version came out well We all took two and one guy was eating grass another ran his head into a car an knocked his self out .I wound up carry his girlfriend all the way down tiche beach to his van and having wild sex. No He does not know .Well He didnt and You better not tell Him.

We all have those kind of stories and if your friend is a Zep fan,your busted,Al

You should be happy to be alive,Bro I know I am!

[Matthew!]

Everyone's having fun bashing Obama, eh? Tell you what, you're going to be sore when he wins.

Why is our economy in the shit hole? The war.

Who never wants to leave Iraq? McCain.

Therefore, who wants to keep our economy in the shit hole? McCain.

Who wants to pull our economy out of the shit hole? Obama.

That's all it takes.

I may not like Hillary, but at least she didn't seem racist and she seems proud to be an American. At least she wore the American flag pin.

If Obama has attended his church for so long and is a religious man, why doesn't he put his hand over his heart? If he is a religious man, he SHOULD put his hand on the bible IF he takes oath. Scared of offending somebody? Get over it and stand up for your own supposed values.

People have different values. If Barack does not feel the need to wear a little pin, why should he? It's a pin, for crying out loud. The man is running for the highest office, I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that he is an American.

Being religious has nothing to do with putting your hand over your heart.

Maybe Barack believes Church and State should be separate? Wouldn't that possibly keep him from placing his hand on the bible? In which case, he would be standing up for his values. But no, people are too assuming to stop and think, placing judgements here and there before they even know it. It's plain hypocritical to accuse Obama of not wearing a flag pin (supporting his values), then turn around and say he doesn't support his values based on something that has not even happened.

The thing is, these issues are trivial! These are not the things you should be basing your decision on. Look at the things that will effect our country. Of course, take into account who each of the candidates is, but if you're sitting here bashing Obama for his personal views which happen to differ from yours, you need to adjust where you're placing the weight of your decision.

[Mrs. Plant]

People have different values. If Barack does not feel the need to wear a little pin, why should he? It's a pin, for crying out loud. The man is running for the highest office, I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that he is an American.

Being religious has nothing to do with putting your hand over your heart.

Maybe Barack believes Church and State should be separate? Wouldn't that possibly keep him from placing his hand on the bible? In which case, he would be standing up for his values. But no, people are too assuming to stop and think, placing judgements here and there before they even know it. It's plain hypocritical to accuse Obama of not wearing a flag pin (supporting his values), then turn around and say he doesn't support his values based on something that has not even happened.

The thing is, these issues are trivial! These are not the things you should be basing your decision on. Look at the things that will effect our country. Of course, take into account who each of the candidates is, but if you're sitting here bashing Obama for his personal views which happen to differ from yours, you need to adjust where you're placing the weight of your decision.

When it comes to the person running for the highest seat of representing my country it's my personal opinion that someone running for office should wear the pin. It may be just a pin, but it's a pin that represents something. And that something tells me a lot about the man.

Let's face it, of them all, he is the least patriotic.

[eternal light]

I think he is patriotic but he understands that a part of America has the sense of being left behind and disenfranchised. It's not the smartest campaign tactic to fail to honor the flag, of course.

Discrimination was huge when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's,it still goes on and so does the hatred.I STILL see it every day.So don't say that it doesn't happen in our country.

You're right, and the tensions are real. I have seen discrimination recently enough just when I thought people had progressed. So my father's advice that I have to fight for my rights and honor the rights of those who are forsaken still rings true.

Im saying slavery doesnt happen in our country.

It happens in the garment industry in the United States. There are recent prosecutions in California against those who have deceived and coerced unknowing immigrants to labor in sweatshops even today. There is a law against it but it does happen.

Edited June 9, 2008 by eternal light

[Matthew!]

And that something tells me a lot about the man.

Again, you are assuming.

[Hermit_]

I tell you what bill. Every time i try to be facetious. I get everybody to jump on me, even the ones that know who I am. Hell i was being facetious with hermit and I'm in his sig. I got banned for being facetious one time too. This must be my one great skill, to bad i have no idea how to use it for profit. Because I'll be a fucking millionaire. Maybe I'm just a smart asshole.

You were being facetious, you (now) say, Pipeboy?

[facetiousness: treating serious issues with deliberately

inappropriate humor; flippant; playfully jocular; tongue-in-cheek]

Here's the full paragraph from which the quote was pulled.

Let's see if you seem to be trying to be funny,.. shall we?

Hermit i don't care which candidate supports, but you are not looking at this objectively. Saying Obama is right on every issue, saying he will win no matter what, and saying he is god gift to the American people and John McCain is just old is being a fucking cheerleader. We know John McCain has a bad past, but Obama has a bad present. We know who John McCain is, Bush 3rd term, typical politician. But we don't know yet who is obama yet besides the speeches, Obama is not going to look any better tomorrow than he will look today, all politicians are bad. Is a 6 point lead large enough for a candidate, whom can only go down, over a candidate, whom can only go up since we know who John McCain is. We know who Hillary was, and Obama was just a dream and he got out to a lead, than we started to find out who Obama is and we started to see those cracks.

Now let's break it down:

Hermit i don't care which candidate supports, but you are not looking at this objectively. Saying Obama is right on every issue, saying he will win no matter what, and saying he is god gift to the American people and John McCain is just old is being a fucking cheerleader.

Up to this point your tone seems to me to be quite serious as you chastise me for (what you think is) my lack of objectivity and for (what you consider to be) my being "a fucking cheerleader". Your predictably gross (as in 'unrefined') and mildly sarcastic caricature of my positions about Obama and McCain notwithstanding, there's nothing particularly "funny", "jocular", or "tongue in cheek" there, right?

Ok then,.. continuing on..

We know John McCain has a bad past, but Obama has a bad present. We know who John McCain is, Bush 3rd term, typical politician. But we don't know yet who is obama yet besides the speeches, Obama is not going to look any better tomorrow than he will look today, all politicians are bad. Is a 6 point lead large enough for a candidate, whom can only go down, over a candidate, whom can only go up since we know who John McCain is.

As far as I can tell, you're making no attempt at humor here either, and it's quite clear to me that at this point you're expressing your own point of view. The evidence that you're expressing your own pov: "We know John McCain has a bad past" is, in all seriousness, what you believe to be true about John McCain [*The Keating Five*] and "Obama has a bad present" is, in all seriousness, what you believe to be true about Obama.

You continue your serious tone and start making your case that you think McCain has a better chance of winning because he's a known candidate. You say, without a hint of sarcasm or jocularity, "we know who John McCain is, Bush 3rd term, typical politician. But we don't know yet who is Obama yet besides the speeches". You claim Obama's "not going to look any better tomorrow than he will look today" and you again repeat your point that "we know who John McCain is" in support of your prediction that McCain's numbers "can only go up" while Obama's numbers "can only go down".

In trying to make your point you give no indication that you are being funny, tongue in cheek, or jocular.

We know who Hillary was, and Obama was just a dream and he got out to a lead, than we started to find out who Obama is and we started to see those cracks.

You continue your "known candidate" theme and continue to make your case by pointing out that "We know who Hillary was" and that Obama's lead took some hits when "we started to find out who Obama is".

Conclusion: When your "We know who McCain is, Bush 3rd term, typical politician" quote is examined in the context in which it was made, Pb, your claim that you were being facetious simply doesn't hold water, muh-man. From start to finish you were being serious, not humorous, in trying to make a case for your point that McCain's chances of winning are better than Obama's because McCain is a known candidate. And in making your case you stated very clearly (and very accurately, I might add) what it is that we all know about John McCain: "Bush 3rd term; typical politician".

"A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth."

~Michael Kinsley, 1992

You're not a politician, Pb, but your comment amounts to a political gaffe. You mistakenly told the truth about your candidate. And now that the absurdity of that truth is apparent even to you, you're trying to hide behind a claim that you were being facetious. Sorry, bud, that dog aint hunting for ya.

While your assertion that "We know who John McCain is, Bush 3rd term, typical politician" is certainly a legitimate point, I'd like to point out that as far as your 'known candidate' theory goes,.. Hillary 'the known candidate' lost to Obama.

Fwiw.. here's where humor does come in to play with regard to your gaffe: I find it hilarious that someone (that'd be you) during this general election.. an election in which the vast majority of Americans want a change from GW Bush's failed policies.. would seriously claim "We know who John McCain is. Bush 3rd term; typical politician" as an argument IN SUPPORT OF John McCain's candidacy. Now that IS funny, my friends!

And thus your gaffe has you earned a place in my sig..

..and a customized McSame campaign banner to boot!

Congrats, bud.

oh, btw..

Maybe I'm just a smart asshole.

Fwiw, 'my friend' (McCain-ism for ya),..

I don't think you're an asshole.

..or smart.

wait a minute.. I take that (first part) back.

suggesting Obama is anti-America is a-hole-ish.

so I guess that makes you a dumb..

[just bustin ya chops, muh-man. *wink*]

Edited June 9, 2008 by Hermit_

[Jahfin]

I would love to see Obama become President but I have a feeling it's not going to happen because I'm not so sure the world at large is ready for a black man to become President. Perhaps if he names Hilary as his running mate that might deter any assassination attempts.

[Mrs. Plant]

Again, you are assuming.

Well as a politian working for votes, it assumptions like mine that he should take into consideration.

[Big Klu]

Perhaps if he names Hilary as his running mate that might deter any assassination attempts.

AWESOME.

[myledzep]

When it comes to the person running for the highest seat of representing my country it's my personal opinion that someone running for office should wear the pin. It may be just a pin, but it's a pin that represents something. And that something tells me a lot about the man.

Let's face it, of them all, he is the least patriotic.

I usually stay out of political threads but is it fair to assume because he may not wear a patroitic pin that he's any less patroitic than McCain or any other person running for office who do?