BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 This article was in the USA Today on Monday. It is from a book by Rob Kirkpatrick titled 1969: The Year that Everything Changed. There is a picture of Led Zeppelin included in a collage of memorable events of 1969 in the cover story of USA Today. The top five albums were: 1. In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida Iron Butterfly 2. Hair Original Cast 3. Blood, Sweat & Tears BST 4. Bayou Country Creedence Clearwater Revival 5. Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin "Some pop culture experts say that 1969 is all about the music. Led Zeppelin introduced heavy metal, the Who gave us the rock opera Tommy, and the Rolling Stones were in top form. It was also the year that the Beatles broke up." "The reason we remember 1969 is because of the twin poles of Woodstock and Altamont. The community of peace and love and the nightmare of chaos and disorder." "Kirkpatrick (Rob) says his definitive song of 1969 is We Can Be Together by Jefferson Airplane 'because it encapsulates the revolutionary spirit of the time'. (We are forces of chaos and anarchy/Everything they say we are we are/And we are very/Proud of ourselves/Up against the wall.)" "Jeremy Wallach, a cultural anthropologist with the department of pop culture at Bowling Green State University in Ohio, calls 1969 'the apotheosis and decline of counterculture." He, too, says the music of the day tells the story." "Another telling sign of the times was that concertgoers wanted to be 'part of the show'. 'You can see it in footage from Woodstock. They were rushing the stage,' Kirkpatrick says." "'It was one of those unusual moments in history when the fabric of society was torn. A lot of balloons popped because what was at stake was very deep cleavages over what America should be and how people should live', he says." "'The modern American society that we know today was just beginning. What followed in the '70s proves his point." The end of the war in Vietnam, Nixon's resignation, Roe vs. Wade, the 'Me' decade. Even short hair." "'I don't think it's even debatable. There's an America before '69, and an America after '69.'" What is everyone's perspective on 1969? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'd have said 1967 was the pivotal year, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I can't say that it was the most pivitol year in music but it certainly was a pivitol year all round. The moon landing, the death of Brian Jones , Charles Manson The good, the bad and the ugly 1969 had it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'd have said 1967 was the pivotal year, myself. The article says: "'A lot of people talk aabout 1967 as 'The Summer of Love' and 1968 as' The Year the Dream Died', but there wasn't one book about 1969. It fills a gap', says Kirkpatrick, who was one year old when rain foll on throngs of rock fans at Woodstock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 "'There were truly seismic shifts in music and popular culture' in the late '60s, says Joe Levy, editor of the music magazine Blender. Levy says Gimme Shelter by the Stones (Oh a storm is threatening/ My very life today/ If I don't get some shelter/ Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away) is the signature song of 1969. 'It's a song of immense foreboding, the sense that something awful is just on the horizon.', he says." Top 5 movies of 1969: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Midnight Cowboy Paint Your Wagon Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice On Her Majesty's Secret Service Link to entire article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/20...ok_N.htm?csp=34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 It's probably the first year for which I have real memories; I started kindergarten that fall, my brother was born that summer and I can remember watching the moon landing. I knew it was a very significant moment. I remember Woodstock too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 It was also the year that the Beatles broke up. 1970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucyinthesky Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Be it 1969 or 1967 or 1970...I don't care! Get my a time machine and I'll be happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The good, the bad and the ugly 1969 had it all '68 and '69 were the worst years of my life. I was totally freaked out on LSD and the draft was calling me Luckily, they didn't want me. I'm just glad I got through the 60's ALIVE!!! And in my later years I took up the guitar. I wouldn't go back to those years for a zillion bucks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 1970 I am just quoting the article. Please read the link below: http://www.aboutthebeatles.com/biography_p...rtney_myths.php It says that the Beatles broke up on September 20, 1969 when John Lennon told Paul that he wanted a "divorce". Paul announced the break up on October 24, 1969, but the public was too stupified by the "Paul is dead" hoax to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The article says: "'A lot of people talk aabout 1967 as 'The Summer of Love' and 1968 as' The Year the Dream Died', but there wasn't one book about 1969. It fills a gap', says Kirkpatrick, who was one year old when rain foll on throngs of rock fans at Woodstock." I'd have leaned more towards 1967 as a more pivotal year as well but I can see why they'd have chosen 1969 as a turning point - end of a very turbulent decade socially and politically and a move towards a new era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 1969 was the beginning of the end for The Beatles and the end of the beginning of Led Zeppelin. For me personally it was a pivotal year because that's when I discovered Zep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 1969 had Woodstock..which was a failed experiment at the "Hippie Dream" and Altamont..which was the end of the "Hippie Dream." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JethroTull Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Two rock stars that I know of - Pete Townsend and Ian Anderson were quite critical of hippies. I've kinda adopted their stance and am quite appalled by the free love, drugs and all that crap. Pete thought they were hypocrites - they didn't exactly practice what they preached.... Welcome Come to my house Be one of the comfortable people. Come to this house We're drinking all night Never sleeping. Milkman come in! And you baker, Little old lady welcome And you shoe maker Come to this house! Into this house. Come to this house Be one of us. Make this your house Be one of us. You can help To collect some more in Young and old people Lets get them all in! Come to this house! Into this house. Ask along that man who's wearing a carnation. Bring every single person from Victoria Station, Go into that hospital and bring nurses and patients, Everybody go home and fetch their relations! Come to this house Be one of the comfortable people. Lovely bright home Drinking all night never sleeping. Excuse me, sir, there's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door There's more at the door THERE'S MORE!!! We need more room Build an extension A colourful palace Spare no expense now Come to this house Be one of us Come into this house Be one of us Come to this house Into this house Welcome I guess Ian did too..... Ian was critical of people (hippies) who joined protests/causes that they didn't really understand. Living in the Past. Happy and Im smiling, Walk a mile to drink your water. You know Id love to love you, And above you theres no other. Well go walking out While others shout of wars disaster. Oh, we wont give in, Lets go living in the past. Once I used to join in Every boy and girl was my friend. Now theres revolution, but they dont know What theyre fighting. Let us close out eyes; Outside their lives go on much faster. Oh, we wont give in, Well keep living in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 '68 and '69 were the worst years of my life. I was totally freaked out on LSD and the draft was calling me Luckily, they didn't want me. I'm just glad I got through the 60's ALIVE!!! And in my later years I took up the guitar. I wouldn't go back to those years for a zillion bucks!! For a number of reason's , me either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 They say that if you remember the 60's, then you really weren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think many people who were a part of the hippy movement, upon reflection will freely admit it was wrought with problems, which is why things ultimately fell apart. But there's no escaping the effect it had on our culture and society and there's still something that touches my heart to think of young people uniting for the greater good like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ah, the Sixties, Woodstock, and Viet Nam. Then came the Seventies, Cambodia; the Khmer Rouge slaughtered everyone between the age of ten and sixty. They figured anyone under age ten would be easy to influence and manipulate because they are too young to think critically and independently, and that anyone over sixty would be too weak to resist. Most of those who were airlifted wound up in a huge tent city at Camp Pendleton waiting in line for everything for hours. The excesses of rock and roll were nothing compared to the consequences of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 "Where were you in 69? Smokin' dope and drinkin' wine!, Just an outlaw!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think many people who were a part of the hippy movement, upon reflection will freely admit it was wrought with problems, which is why things ultimately fell apart. But there's no escaping the effect it had on our culture and society and there's still something that touches my heart to think of young people uniting for the greater good like that. There were a lot of reason's why the Hippie movement crumbled but in my mind at least, I think they were sold out by the Yippie 's who thought the non violent approach simply wasn't working. As time went on the level of violence escalated forcing many Hippies to abandon their cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 There were a lot of reason's why the Hippie movement crumbled but in my mind at least, I think they were sold out by the Yippie 's who thought the non violent approach simply wasn't working. As time went on the level of violence escalated forcing many Hippies to abandon their cause Or join the "Dead Head" entourage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Or join the "Dead Head" entourage! That too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 There were a lot of reason's why the Hippie movement crumbled but in my mind at least, I think they were sold out by the Yippie 's who thought the non violent approach simply wasn't working. As time went on the level of violence escalated forcing many Hippies to abandon their cause I would say that definitely impacted things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 What makes people think hippies have disappeared from the landscape? They're still out there and I don't mean the ones that "play" hippie at Widespread, Phish, etc. shows. They exist on the fringes of society just as they always have. I also wonder about the fascination some seem to have with wishing they had grown up in the 60s or 70s. Why would anyone want to go back to such a turbulent time in our nations history, as if the times we are living in aren't turbulent enough. Having grown up in the 70s I can say without hesitation that you really didn't miss out on much. I'm more about living in the now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmie ray Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 If I look at pictures of families taken back in the 60's, I see kids and adults interacting together, usually in settings such as picnic grounds with very little material objects in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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