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Physical Graffitti vs. Exile on Main St.

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I dont think -the stones ever came near covering the terrane that -zeppelin did. I guess -the who would be a better comparison, because the bands worked together on a higher level, but as bands...still two different machines. towneshend/moon and page/bonham being much different elements. imo

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I'm only asking, but is there really any margin for comparison at all between these 2 albums?!

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I'm only asking, but is there really any margin for comparison at all between these 2 albums?!
Good point dragster,each one has to be taken on it's own merits,depending on which band you like,personally I like both,but I wish the comparison could've been up against the highly commercial 'Rolled Gold' :D .(I'd probably still pick PG,not because I'm here, but for the 'feel' of the album,it,s all in the ear of the listener).

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I'm a huge Stones and a huge Zeppelin fan. This is a great question. For me Physical Graffiti is superior b/c the music and lyrics are epic, mysterious, obscure and progressive - PG takes me somewhere else, away from this world. Exile on the other hand is an amazing album and the lyrics are probably more soulful and deep and meeingful (I only say this b/c most of the Zep lyrics are obscure or I can't really figure out). I think both albums have a country influence on some songs but I think In My Time of Dying would have fit well on Exile.

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I'm a Fan of LZ, and not a very familiar with RS work, but i do have the "Exile on Mayn St." album.

Both are great albums, but for me Physical Graffiti takes the mainly due to 4 songs:

  • Kashmir
  • Trampled Under Foot
  • Down By The Seaside
  • Houses Of The Holy

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PG. Hands down.

It's my favorite Zep album right at the moment. Until I change my mind tomorrow. :lol:

Exile on Main Street is a good album, but I will always say that Zeppelin always trumps the Stones...no matter which albums we're comparing. :P

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PG. Hands down.

It's my favorite Zep album right at the moment. Until I change my mind tomorrow. :lol:

Exile on Main Street is a good album, but I will always say that Zeppelin always trumps the Stones...no matter which albums we're comparing. :P

I'm crushed.... :(

I don't know what to say..... :'(

Yes;I do.....

Exile On Main St.

B)

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Good point dragster,each one has to be taken on it's own merits,depending on which band you like,personally I like both,but I wish the comparison could've been up against the highly commercial 'Rolled Gold' :D .(I'd probably still pick PG,not because I'm here, but for the 'feel' of the album,it,s all in the ear of the listener).

I totally concur!! I have to say I'm a HUGE fan of both bands, but I dig them in 2 diff ways....and yes, music is a highly SUBJECTIVE art!! :)

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Physical Graffiti

I love Exile as well and listen to it fairly often, but PG is an epic classic -- capturing the majesty, power and incredible diversity of Zeppelin.

In fact, I've always felt that there are no 3 songs back-to-back-to-back any better than Kashmir, Trampled Underfoot and Houses of The Holy.

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I like both bands too, but i'm wondering how these records can be compared. Maybe because of tracks like -night flight, black country woman and boogie with stu? Otherwise, as bands go, they are two different worlds. I agree what was said, that they are watermarks by both bands.

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This question has been posted over on the IORR message board - IORR is an unofficial Stones web site in case you don't know. You can probably guess what the members on that site voted for, but I just felt like playing devil's advocate and asking the members here what they thought!

My serious reply to this is that they are both great albums, just a matter of personal choice which is the best. IMO Exile is a more complete album, in that the Stones set out to celebrate 10 years together and planned a double album from the start, whereas PG feels more like a single album padded out with some extra tracks to bulk it up. Exile, however, doesn't have peaks similar to IMTOD, Trampled Underfoot or Kashmir.

According to Wikipedia, Exile shifted a million copies, PG sold 16 million.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on here (like me) who are into Led Zep and the Stones...

What's the verdict?

The Stones really were the world's greatest rocknroll band---at being media/P.R. friendly. PG really does have more highlights. Too much of Exhile is just ok, rather than great. I do like tumbling dice. PG is my all time favorite album of any band anywhere.

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For me it's not even close, because I loathe Exile On Main Street. When I listen to it and consider people think that it's a masterpiece I lose my lunch. The only song on the album that even comes close to decency (Shine A Light) is ruined by the cheesiness when the song goes full on gospel near the end.

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PG is my choice although I'm a big stones fan as well.

One of my favorite songs on PG is a catchy little tune called "Boogie with stu"

It sticks in your head lol

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I agree with the folk who think Let It Bleed or Sticky Fingers were better Stones albums, they were.

Exile though comes real close. The acoustic side 2 (I still think album sides) was pretty much perfect in my humble opinion. The whole album had this dark vibe going for it; bluesy, folksy, etc.

So, to answer the original question...........Exile was the better record.

Sorry.

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PG without a doubt, all time favorite. I'd take "Its Only Rock 'n' Roll" to the desert island before any other Stones. Of course about ten days a year Pink Floyds "Animals" wins over everything...

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Agreed

I played both albums to death, and I still don,t get bored. Exile is my all-time favorite Stones album, with Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers close seconds. I love PG, lthough LZ 1 and 4 are my favorite Zep records.

The Stones are more song-oriented, while Zeppelin is musicianship-driven. Buth both records have aged extremely well.

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I own both albums and while they are both great I think that Physical Graffitti takes the cake here. While Exile is great Physical Graffitti is much more memorable. The first disc is just pure greatness. With six amazing songs like those Exile has to do a better job to keep up. The Rover is just amazing and In My Time Of Dying is just spectacular. Houses of the Holy is also a great song. Trampled Underfoot leads up into Kashmir very well. And Kashmir is just well Kashmir. With a first disc as amazing as that it would seem hard to follow up with a great second disc. After all we are talking about Led Zeppelin so they do do a great job on Disc 2 as well. The songs on disc 2 are much different than disc 1. Disc 2 features some slower more tranquile. They are still just as great but different.

Bottom line I would recommend this over Exile any day.

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For me it's not even close, because I loathe Exile On Main Street. When I listen to it and consider people think that it's a masterpiece I lose my lunch. The only song on the album that even comes close to decency (Shine A Light) is ruined by the cheesiness when the song goes full on gospel near the end.

I like the version of Shine A Light by the Rolling Stones with Bonnie Raitt and Mick Jagger singing together.

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I'm crushed.... :(

I don't know what to say..... :'(

Yes;I do.....

Exile On Main St.

B)

Hmmm...I had a feeling that was going to happen. :lol:

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For me it's not even close, because I loathe Exile On Main Street. When I listen to it and consider people think that it's a masterpiece I lose my lunch. The only song on the album that even comes close to decency (Shine A Light) is ruined by the cheesiness when the song goes full on gospel near the end.

Might as well lose your dinner while you're at it...

Side 1

"Rocks Off" – 4:32

Recorded in LA, early 1972

"Rip This Joint" – 2:23

Features Bill Plummer on upright bass

"Shake Your Hips" (Slim Harpo) – 2:59

Recordings started in Spring 1970 at Stargroves

"Casino Boogie" – 3:33

Features Richards on bass

"Tumbling Dice" – 3:45

Features Jagger on guitar and Mick Taylor on bass. Recordings started at Stargroves, Spring 1970, under the working title "Goodtime Women Blues"

Side 2

"Sweet Virginia" – 4:25

Recorded in mid-1970 at Stargroves

"Torn and Frayed" – 4:17

Features Mick Taylor on bass and Al Perkins on pedal steel guitar. Recorded in L.A., early 1972

"Sweet Black Angel" – 2:54

Features Jimmy Miller on percussion. Recordings started early 1970 at Stargroves

"Loving Cup" – 4:23

Recorded in LA, early 1972

Side 3

"Happy" – 3:04

Features Richards on lead vocal and bass and producer Jimmy Miller on drums

"Turd on the Run" – 2:37

Features Bill Plummer on upright bass

"Ventilator Blues" (Jagger, Richards, Mick Taylor) – 3:24

Features Nicky Hopkins on piano.

"I Just Want to See His Face" – 2:52

Features Bill Plummer on upright bass and Richards on piano

"Let It Loose" – 5:17

Features Dr. John among others on backing vocals. Recordings started at Stargroves, early 1970.

Side 4

"All Down the Line" – 3:49

Features Bill Plummer on upright bass and Bill Wyman on electric bass. Recorded at Stargroves, spring 1970, and Sunset Sound, early 1972

"Stop Breaking Down" (Robert Johnson) – 4:34

Features Jagger on rhythm guitar, Recorded at Stargroves, spring 1970

"Shine a Light" – 4:14

Features Miller on drums and Billy Preston on organ. An early version was recorded in Spring 1970, and released in 1970, by Leon Russell as "Get a Line on You," together with Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman, Mick Taylor and Ringo Starr.

"Soul Survivor" – 3:49

Features Richards on bass. Recorded in LA, early 1972

[edit] Personnel

Mick Jagger – Vocals, Harmonica, Guitar

Keith Richards – Electric Guitar, Acoustic Guitar, Bass, Vocals, Piano

Mick Taylor – Electric Guitar, Slide Guitar, Acoustic Guitar, Bass

Charlie Watts – Drums

Bill Wyman – Bass, Upright Bass

[edit] Additional personnel

Ian Stewart – Piano

Mac Rebennack (Dr. John) – Backing Vocals, Piano

Billy Preston – Piano, Organ

Bill Plummer – Upright Bass

Nicky Hopkins – Piano

Clydie King – Backing Vocals

Jim Price – Trumpet, Trombone, Organ

Bobby Keys – Saxophone, Percussion

Amyl Nitrate – Marimba

Al Perkins – Pedal Steel Guitar

Jerry Kirkland – Backing Vocals

Tammi Lynn – Backing Vocals

Kathi McDonald – Backing Vocals

Jimmy Miller – Drums, Percussion, Maracas

Vanetta Field – Backing Vocals

Shirley Goodman – Backing Vocals

Joe Green – Backing Vocals

[edit] Recording personnel

Glyn Johns – engineer

Andy Johns – engineer

Joe Zaganno – engineer

Jeremy Gee – engineer

Robert Frank – photography

Norman Seeff – design

John Van Hamersveld – design

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I like both bands too, but i'm wondering how these records can be compared. Maybe because of tracks like -night flight, black country woman and boogie with stu? Otherwise, as bands go, they are two different worlds. I agree what was said, that they are watermarks by both bands.

So true.

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