zeppelincheetah Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I didn't even do prior research for this one. Didn't feel like it because I already know so much. What I don't know is who made the original. The original was covered by The Yardbirds in their live acts while Jimmy Page was in the band. I believe it was called "I'm So Confused" at some point. Page used the bow on it and took the song to be used with his new band. Live versions of the song can last a very long time (20 minutes +). I think it's a great song, maybe my second favorite after Babe I'm Gonna Leave You. Feels good to play it when I have frustrations with women. I think I liked it more when I was a bit younger though. Still love it but it doesn't do the same for me now as it did then. Opinions? Anything to add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyermaker432 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 the one thing i absolutely love about this song is in the live version on TSRTS when they break out into the random song aboug 6 minutes in... absolutely love how they weave that into it with no trouble whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 jake holmes was the songs composer he's not too happy about the fact that he's never received a credit for it either. i read an artice with him recently (i think it was in record collector magazine) where he said that he'd written to jimmy several times asking to have his name included in the credits but has never received any reply. he also said he felt the reason for this was that jimmy was now so associated with the song through the visual image of him using the violin bow that to admit to "borrowing" it would look bad for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 This song live is probably the reason I became obsessed with this band. Epic song live! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDog71 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 This song live is probably the reason I became obsessed with this band. Epic song live! I second this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Anything to add? Check out the original, it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stariway95 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) One of my favorites. The live version off of "How the West was Won" was very good, but it's got nothing on the energy of the original, In my opinion Edited November 21, 2009 by Stariway95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stariway95 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mQvW0ROag Good video of the Yardbirds version. Edited November 21, 2009 by Stariway95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I love the studio version, I can live without the half hour live versions. I love on the studio version the high pitched screaming riff that Page didn't play on the live versions. It's also one of Pages best solo's, just pure energy. Great drumming from Bonzo on this song, especially after the solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardent15 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Studio version is one of my all-time favorite Zeppelin tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Of Sandwich Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 It seems like the Yardbirds' version is waaay closer to Jake Holmes version, if anything, he should blame the Yardbirds for stealing it. At any rate, Zeppelin basically took it and made it completely their own. I love the 30 minute TSRTS and HTWWW versions more than the studio versions because I love all different sections and riffs that come out of it, riffs that could (and were) used in songs later on. The '75 versions with Joni Mitchell's 'Woodstock' in the place of 'San Francisco' are great too, but the bow sections in those are IMO a little too discordant and screachy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This song live is probably the reason I became obsessed with this band. Epic song live! I agree about hearing it live, when you hear JPJ start out on bass, it's no doubt this is Led Zeppelins ballad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lena_Zep Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Check out the original, it's great. Wow, it really is great! Anyway, Dazed & Confused must be on of my favorite Zep songs. Both studio and live versions are amazing. I think this was the second Zeppelin song I've heard of, and it totally hooked me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Another Guitar and singing song that take's you for a nice ride! The studio cut is tight and on the mark while the live cut is sorta lose around the edges. From the start of both version's you think it's the same but as soon as Robert Plant start's singing the opening line's it apparent witch one your hearing. This is also the song for Jimmy Page's little movie sequence in the film "The Song Remains The Same". The shot of him climbing up the hill to get to the old guy (turns out to be himself) with the lamp then showing a pictorial history of him getting young and then old again it's quite off the wall! But I think I get the point. Anyways, a good song from the first album too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarmy Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 More bow history, according to Led Zeppelin: Dazed and Confused: The Stories Behind Every Song, by Chris Welch: Eddie Phillips used the bow for the British band Creation in the mid 60s. Page is rumored to have been inspired by Phillips, but this is actually not the case. The idea was suggested by a musician Page was associated with through his session work: the father of actor David McCallum--a session violinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 More bow history, according to Led Zeppelin: Dazed and Confused: The Stories Behind Every Song, by Chris Welch: Eddie Phillips used the bow for the British band Creation in the mid 60s. Page is rumored to have been inspired by Phillips, but this is actually not the case. The idea was suggested by a musician Page was associated with through his session work: the father of actor David McCallum--a session violinist. Eddie Phillips didnt use the bow anything like Page. He used it like a chainsaw where Page actually used it like a violin bow. You can hear Phillips use it on "Making Time" by the Creation. It's on the Rushmore soundtrack & I'm sure on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharmabum Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dazed and Confused is without doubt my favorite rock song of all time. The following piece, written as a young college student, was published by Zoso magazine (#63) in 1992. I still get a kick out of it so I thought I would share... Led Zeppelin, the only way to fly. When I need to blast off into the realm of fantasy, I book all my flights with Led Zeppelin. Each song carries me off to its own fantastic destination and is sure to bring me back home safely. For a trip into madness, there is nothing quite like "Dazed and Confused." This song is the epitome of a mental orgasm. The journey begins when my heartbeat starts to reflect the eerieness of the opening bass line. Suddenly, the echoing guitar slices through me with its otherworldly sound. As the singer bursts out with the tortured cry, "I've been dazed and confused for so long it's not true!," I immediately wonder if I am prepared for what is to come. The thunderous beat of the drums kick in and my body finds itself in spasm, moving like a jackhammer. I realize there is no turning back. These four musical elements begin to work together, intricately weaving emotions into a pattern of fluctuating intensity. The final and most devestating musical drive blooms into the melancholy of infinite silence. It is to this unfathomable depth that the invocation is directed. After the guitarist ritualistically introduces his magic wand, a violin bow, he proceeds to use it on his guitar. The sounds conjured up are at once terrifying and blissful. As the haunting music builds to its climax, my conception of reality liquefies and slips away from grip. All that remains is the presence of the infinite in which I am completely immersed. Mental orgasm. When the peak ends and the wand is put away, reality is given a chance to solidify. But wait! Before I can get a sure gripping, the band takes off into a frenzy of utter chaos. I find myself caught between worlds, bouncing off the cosmic riffs that are spewing out from the guitar. Flashing from reality to reality I can't stop thinking of my helplessness as the singer's primal cries vibrate through to the very core of my existence. Relief comes when I find my body moving in that jackhammer groove once again. This is a sure sign that the trip is almost over. A wicked smile comes over my face when I realize where the music has taken me. As the song comes to an end, I give a sigh of satisfaction. Led Zeppelin, the only way to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The "Zeppelin Vibe" begins. Jimmy Page's opus for what he would become and where he took the band. Genius, no matter the originator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The "Zeppelin Vibe" begins. Jimmy Page's opus for what he would become and where he took the band. Genius, no matter the originator. That was perfectly put, I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarmy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The "Zeppelin Vibe" begins. Jimmy Page's opus for what he would become and where he took the band. Genius, no matter the originator. Yep, it's the rule with Led Zeppelin. Ever expanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzoso Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 you know jake holmes was a jingle king a point in his life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrThompson Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 About the studio version its great, i ve never listen the original song, not even the cover by the yardbirds. But now, live version its awsome, those gigs that the play dazed and it lats about 25 minutes, with interludes, solos, its awsome pure feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I love the studio version, I can live without the half hour live versions. Same here. Some of their songs sounded better live, others when they did them live, went on far too long. D&C is one of them. Although I do love the live version from the RAH on the DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfvr Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 For me, one of what I would call a signature song. You automatically think "Led Zeppelin" when Dazed and Confused is mentioned. The live versions were probably longer than needed but, it was opportunities for the band to expand, experiment and develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Actually some of the riffs from the second album were more or less created during the long lasting live performances of Dazed And Confused I think it was Plant who said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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