bluesunday Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The biggest disappointment with the '75 tour of the U.S. was paucity of material from the first three albums. Plan said the band would offer some color from the entire 6.5 year career of Zep and yet we barely get any songs from the first three albums. The first eight songs of every concert begin with tunes starting from Led Zep 4, back into PG, then back in 3 and basically stays there until WLL and the very end where if we're lucky we get HB or CB. This isn't retrospective at all. We got essentially nothing from Zep 1,2 and 3. Oh yeah, toss in the MB from Zep 2 but that's a drum solo, less a song. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Zeppelinite Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You're forgetting that 30+ minutes of each concert consists of Dazed and Confused, once they reach the point where Page can play the setlist they originally intended, anyway (February-On). That's huge chunk of the concert dedicated to first album material, right there. Besides, as long as they played at least one song from each album (which they did), then it technically IS a retrospective, albeit not necessarily a thorough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The biggest disappointment with the '75 tour of the U.S. was paucity of material from the first three albums. Plan said the band would offer some color from the entire 6.5 year career of Zep and yet we barely get any songs from the first three albums. The first eight songs of every concert begin with tunes starting from Led Zep 4, back into PG, then back in 3 and basically stays there until WLL and the very end where if we're lucky we get HB or CB. This isn't retrospective at all. We got essentially nothing from Zep 1,2 and 3. Oh yeah, toss in the MB from Zep 2 but that's a drum solo, less a song. Bummer. In other words, what Plant said was correct. Besides that, they had already played material from the first three albums for more than five years. If they'd continued to include much of that material undoubtedly someone would find the .com forum to post a complaint about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In other words, what Plant said was correct. Besides that, they had already played material from the first three albums for more than five years. If they'd continued to include much of that material undoubtedly someone would find the .com forum to post a complaint about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymru629 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Perhaps another reason that they avoided much of the earlier albums were due to Robert's vocal issues by that point. 1975 was a VERY rough year for his range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy...Rider Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's very true. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 What a load of rubbish. Robert Plant never promised you a rose garden. All he said was that they would give you a little taste, a little colour, of all their material in the six and a half years as a band. With at least one song played from each album, they did that. It's only natural that they would want to accent the most recent albums, PG and HotH. The first album was represented by How Many More Times in the early dates and then Dazed and Confused. That's 15 to 40 minutes of set time right there and a lot of twists and turns. Throw in Communication Breakdown, Whole Lotta Love, Moby Dick, Heartbreaker, Since I've Been Loving You, That's the Way, Bron-Yr-Aur-Stomp, Tangerine, Rock and Roll, Black Dog, Going to California, and Stairway to Heaven, and you have a sizable chunk of songs from the first three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseNoah Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Plant said he would give us a big scoop of Led Zeppelin, a little chocolate, a little vanilla, a little color... We should be so lucky he even came out of his dressing room instead of partying backstage all day and every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcChief Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Wonder who actually made the set lists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Wonder who actually made the set lists? I wonder if they actually wrote down a setlist on paper? Unlike many concerts where you see the roadies tape setlists on the stage monitors or in front of the guitarist's effects box or next to the drummer (and hopefully get the roadie to hand you the setlist after the show), I never saw setlists on Led Zeppelin's stage. I saw them only from 1972-77, so maybe in the early days they would use physical setlists actually written down on paper? Maybe some oldtimer can fill us in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Wonder who actually made the set lists? No need for a set list, when the "songs remain the same" show after show after show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Can't have listened to much Zeppelin if that's what you take away, JTM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raytuned Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I reported this topic ,case closed,give it a break ,or get some smoke or something .I am in total shock of what I am reading on this forum in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 No need for a set list, when the "songs remain the same" show after show after show. Can't have listened to much Zeppelin if that's what you take away, JTM. I believe JTM was referring to the later years, in which case I tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvana Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Even now Robert and the SSS don't vary set lists very much. I find that very confusing and disappointing considering Robert's enormous backlog of music. Zeppelin, solo, and duets - you would think that Robert would have a different set list every other night. The same with Zeppelin's 1977 Tour of America. Very similar set list night after night. You would think they would have, and maybe might have, gotten bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I reported this topic ,case closed,give it a break ,or get some smoke or something .I am in total shock of what I am reading on this forum in general Then quit the site if you don't like it, Ray...in case you haven't noticed we're not just a bunch of drooooooling fanboys and girls who think that every note, breath and burp outta this band was gold. Objectivity is the name of the game here. I saw yer posts going after that guy in the "Who ripped off Zeppelin?" discussion and I think you need to learn a thing or two about tact and diplomacy if you plan on posting here. Just sayin'... Now, as to the topic at hand: I think people are forgetting that '75 was the Physical Graffitti tour...Plant might have talked about it being like a career overview -which it was, as others have pointed out in this discussion, it's not like the early albums were completely ignored- but the bottom line was they had a new album to support, one they were justifiably proud of, and that material was what was gonna get the priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offtherecord Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Not disingenuous just high Edited February 6, 2015 by offtherecord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Not disingenuous just high Oh yeah, no big secret that Plant was high as a kite in '75 It's almost like a cliche now, but to dust off an old nugget: "Cocaine's a helluva drug!" - Rick James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Dounim Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He was a lot funnier with his plantations than any other year if ya ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He was a lot funnier with his plantations than any other year if ya ask me A lot more vulgar as well...look at his numerous oral sex references on the first night in Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) No need for a [Written] set list, when the "songs remain the same" show after show after show. Edit...... Edited February 6, 2015 by JTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I reported this topic ,case closed,give it a break ,or get some smoke or something .I am in total shock of what I am reading on this forum in general You reported a thread that has been dead for nearly a year? You seem to be one tightly-wound dude. Relax a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 He was a lot funnier with his plantations than any other year if ya ask melove snow jobs but not the most politically correct banter between songs that has ever been recorded. If you played that one back to him now I bet he would cringe. That aside, I agree his banter in 75 was great and high as a kite or not it is probably a factor in why I am listening to my 75 shows at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 love snow jobs but not the most politically correct banter between songs that has ever been recorded. If you played that one back to him now I bet he would cringe. Hell, I cringe when I listen to 3-19-75...I was shocked the first time I heard Plant's "Lick yer pussy, yeah!" outburst in IMTOD because that kinda talk seems so out of character for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hell, I cringe when I listen to 3-19-75...I was shocked the first time I heard Plant's "Lick yer pussy, yeah!" outburst in IMTOD because that kinda talk seems so out of character for him. Cocaine is a helluva drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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