kipper Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Tom Petty's family said he died of a drug overdose. https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/tom-petty-died-of-accidental-overdose-family-says/ar-AAuUVlV?li=BBnbfcL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 At least he made to 67 instead of 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, kipper said: Tom Petty's family said he died of a drug overdose. https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/tom-petty-died-of-accidental-overdose-family-says/ar-AAuUVlV?li=BBnbfcL Yes. Legal prescription drugs. Familiar ring to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, chillumpuffer said: Yes. Legal prescription drugs. Familiar ring to it? That's too much nuance, CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, chillumpuffer said: Yes. Legal prescription drugs. Familiar ring to it? fentanyl? As in the Purple Prince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, apantherfrommd said: fentanyl? As in the Purple Prince? Indeed Andy. Petty was touring with a full on broken hip which caused excruciating pain which resulted in the prescription meds. If he only would have just stopped and had the surgery he would likely still be alive. I am all for the show must go on but not when the cost may be your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, chillumpuffer said: Yes. Legal prescription drugs. Familiar ring to it? He abused them and sadly died. Its not like they don't come with instructions about what not to do. Drain cleaner is legal but if you use a bunch in a closed room you can get really sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Unlike some, I'll never begrudge Tom Petty for inadvertently overdosing on prescription meds. The guy was still touring at 67 and had a broken hip that caused him excruciating pain. This is quite a bit different than getting zonked out of one's mind for the sake of getting high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SteveAJones said: Unlike some, I'll never begrudge Tom Petty for inadvertently overdosing on prescription meds. The guy was still touring at 67 and had a broken hip that caused him excruciating pain. This is quite a bit different than getting zonked out of one's mind for the sake of getting high. I agree Steve, though the fact Petty kept touring under such outrageous conditions is kind fucking insane. I loved Petty's music and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy, but jumping up on stage night after night with a broken hip is downright crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Some musicians don't feel alive unless they hit the road often enough. Just like many musicians need to touch and play their instrument often. This isn't an excuse to recklessly party, but in the Vietnam war, for example, many soldiers took morphine for injuries or just to cope, yet in fact when most of the non-injured soldiers came home, most may have had mild withdrawal or little difficulty stopping use. Many don't realize for some ailments there is no satisfactory substitute for opiates, addicts with intractable pain conditions go into and out of rehab, and no pain relief means a miserable existence. What a shame about Petty, I thought he had periods of some drinking a while back and some pot here and there. I don't condone opiates, but some people think you can change your diet, get acupuncture, meditate, change your thinking, etc., and eliminate 3/4 of the pain. Sometimes, but this is an overly simplistic view of things. Just like Jimmy Page, although there certainly is a partying aspect there, But Jimmy was never really consistently healthy looking, and even before the 77' and forward skeleton, Jimmy on the same tour would often get a slight belly yet 2 weeks later have it vanish. Jimmy couldn't eat solid food often, and perhaps used coke partially because he may well have needed it to get thru live shows. Speculation, who knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy5151 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I love Tom Petty and will always cherish his music and will never forget the show I was at a few years ago, but having all those drugs in his system is just irresponsible. "The coroner, Jonathan Lucas, said that Mr. Petty’s system showed traces of the drugs fentanyl, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetyl fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl." When the pain gets to this point, he should have postponed the tour. I understand how expensive and how much a logistical nightmare it is to postpone/reschedule the dates, but ones life isn't worth the risk to continue on is this manner. This is such a tragic end that was avoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, timothy5151 said: I love Tom Petty and will always cherish his music and will never forget the show I was at a few years ago, but having all those drugs in his system is just irresponsible. "The coroner, Jonathan Lucas, said that Mr. Petty’s system showed traces of the drugs fentanyl, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetyl fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl." When the pain gets to this point, he should have postponed the tour. I understand how expensive and how much a logistical nightmare it is to postpone/reschedule the dates, but ones life isn't worth the risk to continue on is this manner. This is such a tragic end that was avoidable. I appreciated Petty's chilled attitude and music to reflect. That is some cocktail. temazepam, alprazolam - Not for pain. Temazepam is for calm/to help you stay asleep without waking up and staying awake half the friggin' night. Alprazolam is for anxiety again as is the Temazepam. But never should the twain meet. They probably didn't. But with the combination of everything combined, and touring, the poor guy's heart just couldn't take it. 18 hours ago, redrum said: At least he made to 67 instead of 27. Good post! Very true, Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A lot of people don't know this, and are often surprised to find out, but Tom Petty secretly struggled with heroin in the 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Fentanyl is 100 times stronger than morphine! That stuff is really opioid tolerance dependant, enough to kill you or me might not even register in a regular user. Easy stuff to OD on. RIP Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Strider said: A lot of people don't know this, and are often surprised to find out, but Tom Petty secretly struggled with heroin in the 1990s. Petty was an addict so he should have never been using these prescription drugs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, kipper said: Petty was an addict so he should have never been using these prescription drugs either. He was also a mammal trying to negotiate life with a broken hip, so what do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozoso73 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Ill put this out there (and myself I guess). I take certain PDs after a climbing accident broke my back in 5 places. I'm no Tom Petty but I understand the predicament. I've done drugs I said years ago I would never touch but here I am doing the same type things he was. They are dangerous to be sure but if done as prescribed and if you don't have 4 doctors giving you a bunch of dangerous shit it should be fine. It's a fine line when you're juggling a bunch of narcotics at the same time and it really is a matter of time if abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy5151 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 4:30 AM, SteveAJones said: He was also a mammal trying to negotiate life with a broken hip, so what do you suggest? oh ... I don't know... how about 1. Not abuse prescription drugs 2. Not use multiple doctors (if 1 doctor prescribed 3 types/forms of fentanyl plus oxycodone then they need to be investigated). 3. Not tour when in such pain/condition. (contractual obligation and fans are not worth your life). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bong-Man Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Tom Petty's family and every news agency used the word "accidental". Kipper chose to delete that word simply for his own forum shit-stirring purposes, even though it's used in the very link he posted. So any speculation on who arose from the forum dead ? Del ? Spats ? .....and get that dead salty-ass fish off my bagel ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Bong-Man said: Tom Petty's family and every news agency used the word "accidental". Kipper chose to delete that word simply for his own forum shit-stirring purposes, even though it's used in the very link he posted. So any speculation on who arose from the forum dead ? Del ? Spats ? .....and get that dead salty-ass fish off my bagel ! Funny that BM. I also smell something fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepfan2001 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I didn't know how Mr. Petty died but was saddened when he passed away. I found this thread and now I know what happened. "Fishy" is right. I was hospitalized at that same hospital and it was an atrocious experience to say the least. The shadiest health practitioners I ever saw. The whole thing had really bad vibes. RIP Tom Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 6:12 AM, Zepfan2001 said: I didn't know how Mr. Petty died but was saddened when he passed away. I found this thread and now I know what happened. "Fishy" is right. I was hospitalized at that same hospital and it was an atrocious experience to say the least. The shadiest health practitioners I ever saw. The whole thing had really bad vibes. RIP Tom Petty. i think he died because of his drug use not the fault of the hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bong-Man Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Still makes me sad. RIP Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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