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ScarletMacaw

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I thought this story from the WSJ was so interesting...illustrates how easily events can be propagandized, as well as the tragedy of so many people who used to live in the Soviet Union:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-ukrainian-woman-greeted-troops-with-a-soviet-flag-now-she-tells-putin-to-stop-killing-ukrainians-11653816640?st=ygmlu5ceu3jqbg8&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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On 5/27/2022 at 12:09 AM, SteveAJones said:

A tried-and-true drum to bang now...and just like that the war in Ukraine was all but forgotten.

Pretty much, yeah.  Recently Kissinger and MSM outlets like the NYT and WaPo have called on the Ukraine to negotiate and make concessions.  Which is an indication that at least some members of the oligarchy understand that the Ukraine isn't winning the war and continuing to throw money and arms at them is rapidly diminishing returns.  

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https://thejewishnews.com/2022/03/30/what-zelensky-gets-wrong-about-the-holocaust-in-ukraine/

As the Germans moved further east into Ukraine, they intensified their massacres. In hundreds of locales with the assistance of local Ukrainian collaborators, they gathered Jewish men, women and children, marched them to the outskirts of town, stripped them naked, and shot them in ravines or trenches. Locals were then permitted to scavenge the clothing of the dead. The organization Yahad in Unum, which has been mapping Holocaust-era mass graves, has identified nearly 1,000 such sites in Ukraine.

The largest is Babyn Yar, in the suburbs of Kyiv, where over 33,000 Jews were killed on Sept. 29-30, 1941. Weeks before Babyn Yar, 23,600 Jews were executed in the fortress town of Kamianets-Podilskyy. By January 1942, some 500,000 Jews had been killed in Ukraine.

Karma for Ukraine? 

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The coke-fiend Zelensky has written the book on lack of decorum, such as threatening to start WW3 while wearing military-style t-shirts (and nothing quite says "winning" like hitting up powerhouses like Slovakia for old Soviet-era junk), but a new standard was set when they sent some giant dude to Germany to plead their case.  Truly, nothing can stop the Ukraine now, since they have Shrek on their side:

 

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More cracks in the foundation (better send in Shrek, maybe that cat with the sword too, Pussy Boots or whatever the hell his name is):

Ukraine Foreign Minister Furious After Macron Says Russia Must Not Be Humiliated | ZeroHedge

This comment nails it:

"It's not just the EU that's in disarray.  It is the global dollar based fiat system run by Macron's handlers."

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On 6/6/2022 at 8:01 PM, JohnOsbourne said:

Oh the horror, that will certainly trigger John Kerry to want to go over there on his private jet to lecture them about the impact it will have on the climate. :ahhh:

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Interesting essay in WSJ today: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-putin-puzzle-russia-ukraine-war-office-power-depose-elites-defense-oil-11654630616?st=ya6ml6078fmtg4x&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

If anyone's still reading this thread, I thought they might like a break from the doctored photos supplied by "John Osbourne." 

 

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Even the MSM is going into CYA mode and effectively admitting that this has all been a sham, that Ukraine is losing badly and a deal needs to be cut:

MoA - Ukraine Bits: No Ammo, More Casualties, Thin Lines, Propaganda And Passing The Buck (moonofalabama.org)

Still, some factions of the US/UK Deep State are prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian.  How heroic!

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3 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

Even the MSM is going into CYA mode and effectively admitting that this has all been a sham, that Ukraine is losing badly and a deal needs to be cut:

MoA - Ukraine Bits: No Ammo, More Casualties, Thin Lines, Propaganda And Passing The Buck (moonofalabama.org)

Still, some factions of the US/UK Deep State are prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian.  How heroic!

Don't tell me they've already used up the $40 billion? 

Ukraine Bits: No Ammo, More Casualties, Thin Lines, Propaganda And Passing The Buck

The real state of the war in Ukraine, which I had described some two months ago, has now reached the main stream media. The Zelensky regime in Ukraine is using it to beg the 'west' for more guns and ammunition.

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3 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

Even the MSM is going into CYA mode and effectively admitting that this has all been a sham, that Ukraine is losing badly and a deal needs to be cut:

MoA - Ukraine Bits: No Ammo, More Casualties, Thin Lines, Propaganda And Passing The Buck (moonofalabama.org)

Still, some factions of the US/UK Deep State are prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian.  How heroic!

Yes, the Ukrainian Army is getting beat pretty badly. Certainly the Russian military has taken some real losses and will be dealing with with many issues in the coming years. Truly is very sad to read and watch what is happening. 

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On 6/12/2022 at 1:30 PM, redrum said:

Don't tell me they've already used up the $40 billion? 

Ukraine Bits: No Ammo, More Casualties, Thin Lines, Propaganda And Passing The Buck

The real state of the war in Ukraine, which I had described some two months ago, has now reached the main stream media. The Zelensky regime in Ukraine is using it to beg the 'west' for more guns and ammunition.

No accountability for that money, who knows where it's really going..

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/02/congress-pentagon-ukraine-aid-oversight-00036463

Meanwhile the bad news just keeps piling up.

Russia likely to capture Ukraine's Luhansk region soon: official (nypost.com)

 

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On 6/20/2022 at 2:26 PM, ScarletMacaw said:

The longer this drags on the more I'm convinced both sides deserve each other.

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