cookieshoes Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I am hoping that Steve or someone else here can please clarify where this pic was taken and when...there is a difference of opinion on the photo due to Robert's attire. Have exhausted myself trying to find the exact showl(?...'77) Thank you for anyone 's help with this!! Backstage at Madison Square Garden. June 10th, 1977. The amateur video footage of the show has both Plant and Bonham in those exact outfits. Whereas this wouldn't normally be useful, since the band frequently wore the same outfits every few nights, this is the only known show where Plant wore that shirt or those pants. So, it pretty much makes it beyond reasonable doubt definite, especially since Bonham's outfit matches too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Backstage at Madison Square Garden. June 10th, 1977. The amateur video footage of the show has both Plant and Bonham in those exact outfits. Whereas this wouldn't normally be useful, since the band frequently wore the same outfits every few nights, this is the only known show where Plant wore that shirt or those pants. So, it pretty much makes it beyond reasonable doubt definite, especially since Bonham's outfit matches too. Very nicely done; all I can add here is Robert wore that necklace on the USA '77 tour. It's difficult to read phone number on the forklift in the low-resolution scan provided but if legible the prefix could possibly be confirmed as a NYC number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Very nicely done; all I can add here is Robert wore that necklace on the USA '77 tour. It's difficult to read phone number on the forklift in the low-resolution scan provided but if legible the prefix could possibly be confirmed as a NYC number. ...Then, I guess this confirms the Location/Venue for Zep Photo that you earlier located by photographer George Desota in the Master Forum Zep Photo, Since the attire was worn only on one particular date......... (The phone number, though, I was unsuccessful in reading in its' entirety). Here are the matching photos from from the other thread: http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?sh...0&start=20# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 ...Then, I guess this confirms the Location/Venue for Zep Photo that you earlier located by photographer George Desota in the Master Forum Zep Photo, Since the attire was worn only on one particular date......... (The phone number, though, I was unsuccessful in reading in its' entirety). Here are the matching photos from from the other thread: http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?sh...0&start=20# Looks like 676-1441 to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nech Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Looks like 676-1441 to me. Well, that only leaves you with Npa Nxx 917 676 1441 718 676 631 676 212 676 516 676 to dial thru in the US to see if a NY City area fork lift company answers! If it's anywhere in the US...well, that's a different story! Get dialing Steve!!! Npa Nxx 360 676 845 676 724 676 276 676 239 676 931 676 815 676 678 676 515 676 303 676 740 676 828 676 519 676 500 676 773 676 312 676 617 676 787 676 573 676 719 676 709 676 907 676 240 676 701 676 404 676 216 676 908 676 830 676 608 676 731 676 806 676 616 676 903 676 704 676 979 676 256 676 205 676 443 676 706 676 850 676 435 676 603 676 858 676 252 676 662 676 201 676 530 676 951 676 215 676 406 676 916 676 710 676 403 676 712 676 707 676 626 676 702 676 919 676 408 676 207 676 732 676 570 676 757 676 270 676 615 676 504 676 401 676 760 676 212 676 937 676 650 676 814 676 402 676 289 676 641 676 507 676 309 676 450 676 917 676 940 676 231 676 734 676 610 676 484 676 604 676 613 676 250 676 989 676 202 676 419 676 316 676 631 676 770 676 203 676 509 676 808 676 520 676 717 676 805 676 314 676 318 676 847 676 209 676 801 676 831 676 606 676 415 676 413 676 785 676 605 676 416 676 206 676 242 676 809 676 829 676 868 676 813 676 503 676 334 676 816 676 941 676 585 676 810 676 843 676 508 676 918 676 418 676 559 676 902 676 954 676 812 676 780 676 260 676 516 676 336 676 920 676 864 676 580 676 802 676 860 676 478 676 925 676 510 676 818 676 315 676 305 676 208 676 361 676 214 676 716 676 618 676 973 676 817 676 514 676 313 676 563 676 386 676 410 676 630 676 541 676 204 676 321 676 718 676 705 676 978 676 781 676 217 676 905 676 517 676 660 676 562 676 262 676 501 676 248 676 575 676 301 676 251 676 612 676 304 676 906 676 856 676 703 676 765 676 224 676 832 676 713 676 281 676 310 676 972 676 714 676 320 676 325 676 423 676 970 676 561 676 330 676 434 676 913 676 819 676 936 676 863 676 715 676 601 676 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Looks like 676-1441 to me. ...I'll add to it...the phone number appears at slight angle, initially I "thought" it was 0 in the middle, but you are correct, it is 676-1441, I examined it from bottom/side of screen with glare removed, and the solid number appears.....I second this.... Area Code for New York City is ofcourse (212) ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nech Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Area Code for New York City is ofcourse (212) ....... ummm, no. See above ...trust me I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) ummm, no. See above ...trust me I know. ...well, I magnified the image, and the phone no. has now two possibilities .. 826-1971 Or 826-1941 You are right also, but back then it looks like area code 212 was in effect for New York... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_year_did_Ne..._million_people ...as for the words up top on the phone number...the last three are Mom...... Edited July 17, 2009 by PlanetPage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Backstage at Madison Square Garden. June 10th, 1977. The amateur video footage of the show has both Plant and Bonham in those exact outfits. Whereas this wouldn't normally be useful, since the band frequently wore the same outfits every few nights, this is the only known show where Plant wore that shirt or those pants. So, it pretty much makes it beyond reasonable doubt definite, especially since Bonham's outfit matches too. ....is there a link or info. on this?......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieshoes Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 ....is there a link or info. on this?......... Check out the DVD bootleg releases "Assemblage" on the Cosmic Energy label, or "Film Noir" on the Hercules label. There's only 3 minutes worth of the 6/10 show, and it's nothing pretty to look at. The fragments are synched with the audience audio from the show, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Check out the DVD bootleg releases "Assemblage" on the Cosmic Energy label, or "Film Noir" on the Hercules label. There's only 3 minutes worth of the 6/10 show, and it's nothing pretty to look at. The fragments are synched with the audience audio from the show, though. thank you so much for the info...I will definitely get hold of this...perhaps couple of screen shots can be made... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 ...well, I magnified the image, and the phone no. has now two possibilities .. 826-1971 Or 826-1941 You are right also, but back then it looks like area code 212 was in effect for New York... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_year_did_Ne..._million_people ...as for the words up top on the phone number...the last three are Mom...... ...so it seems the forklift in the photo bears a NYC phone number beyond a reasonable doubt. Excellent. There is simply splendid collaboration going on in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I posted this elsewhere but thought this might be a better place for it as Steve seems to be the master. As follows: I'm slightly embarrassed to have to be asking this, as I know I should know what this is but I just can't put my finger on it, soooooo.... I was listening to the "Dazed & Confused" from the May 14, 1973 New Orleans show, and just after the call and response part of the solo, the band breaks into this jam that sounds like a song I have heard before...but I am drawing a blank after racking my brain all day. To help out, I am specifically listening to Godfatherecords' "Drag Queen of New Orleans" boot, and the mystery jam lasts from approximately 21:00 to 21:35 of Dazed & Confused on Disc 2. It sounds killer and I don't remember ever hearing the band play this jam in any other Dazed & Confused, but something about the jam suggests another song. So if any of you out there have this show and can help identify the song this jam is based on, I'd greatly appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4plant Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 ...so it seems the forklift in the photo bears a NYC phone number beyond a reasonable doubt. Excellent. There is simply splendid collaboration going on in this thread. Thank you so much.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) I posted this elsewhere but thought this might be a better place for it as Steve seems to be the master. As follows: I'm slightly embarrassed to have to be asking this, as I know I should know what this is but I just can't put my finger on it, soooooo.... I was listening to the "Dazed & Confused" from the May 14, 1973 New Orleans show, and just after the call and response part of the solo, the band breaks into this jam that sounds like a song I have heard before...but I am drawing a blank after racking my brain all day. To help out, I am specifically listening to Godfatherecords' "Drag Queen of New Orleans" boot, and the mystery jam lasts from approximately 21:00 to 21:35 of Dazed & Confused on Disc 2. It sounds killer and I don't remember ever hearing the band play this jam in any other Dazed & Confused, but something about the jam suggests another song. So if any of you out there have this show and can help identify the song this jam is based on, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't have this show with me to play through, but is it not Cream's 'Crossroads' ? Edit: This from Otto Masson: I am using a different bootleg for this show, but I just had a listen, and to me that passage sounds quite a bit like "Rollin' and Tumblin'". I am also hearing Jimmy quote "Crossroads" much earlier in the song, just before they do the San Francisco bit. Edited July 19, 2009 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Backstage at Madison Square Garden. June 10th, 1977. The amateur video footage of the show has both Plant and Bonham in those exact outfits. Whereas this wouldn't normally be useful, since the band frequently wore the same outfits every few nights, this is the only known show where Plant wore that shirt or those pants. So, it pretty much makes it beyond reasonable doubt definite, especially since Bonham's outfit matches too. ...Thank you for your willingness foremost to come up with this...initially I did have reasonable doubt that attire in question was also worn at Capital Centre, Landover May 28th or May 26th, 1977... I also recall from Royal Orleans.Com...that Robert wore this Shiny attire at beginning months of the Tour...May somewhat qualifies... The building scenario behind the picture in question can it be Capital Centre? Perhaps the Band is making a U-Turn....further, This is possibly the related picture/date.... Addendum: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http...sa%3DN%26um%3D1 Addendum: Here is John Huntington's Link/Site - See Also Official Web Site Timeline Landover, May 30, his photo...(Showco provided all stage/related effects) http://www.controlgeek.net/blog/2008/9/4/e...pelin-1977.html I Thank you to all for their kindest assistance Edited July 21, 2009 by PlanetPage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetPage Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I am hoping that Steve or someone else here can please clarify where this pic was taken and when...there is a difference of opinion on the photo due to Robert's attire. Have exhausted myself trying to find the exact showl(?...'77) Thank you for anyone 's help with this!! ...see previous post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooma Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Steve, I remember hearing or reading many years ago about a concert in either 75 or 77 that Zeppelin played with Lynyrd Skynyrd on the bill that Skynyrd absolutely blew Zeppelin away, much like Zeppelin did to other bands in their early days. Do you have anything in your archives that addresses this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Steve, I remember hearing or reading many years ago about a concert in either 75 or 77 that Zeppelin played with Lynyrd Skynyrd on the bill that Skynyrd absolutely blew Zeppelin away, much like Zeppelin did to other bands in their early days. Do you have anything in your archives that addresses this? I'm almost positive that's a rumor. I don't think they ever played together. LS did see a Zep show at some point though. I remember reading that in a book about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooma Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm almost positive that's a rumor. I don't think they ever played together. LS did see a Zep show at some point though. I remember reading that in a book about them. Could be a rumor for sure. When i first heard about it, I think it was attributed to Ronnie VanZant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Steve, I remember hearing or reading many years ago about a concert in either 75 or 77 that Zeppelin played with Lynyrd Skynyrd on the bill that Skynyrd absolutely blew Zeppelin away, much like Zeppelin did to other bands in their early days. Do you have anything in your archives that addresses this? Zooma, No, this never happened. Led Zeppelin and Lynrd Skynyrd never shared the same bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC455 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Classic Rock Magazine has quote from Gary Roissiton from their Zepp special issue recently "I saw Zeppelin live twice in Jacksonville Fl at the Jacksonville Mem Coliseum. We had a band then. i think we were called Lynyrnd Skynrd but we could have still going by the name The One Percent. I rememer Jethro Tull opened for them and they were great. but eveyone kept in thier seats. When we saw Zeppelin they blew our minds because all of the girls ran up to the stage. Until then everybody stayed in their seats just to listen to bands. Zeppelin were just unbeleivable. They came out and played so good . Page broke out the violin bow and started going...[imitates sounds}. We thought that was so cool" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Classic Rock Magazine has quote from Gary Roissiton from their Zepp special issue recently "I saw Zeppelin live twice in Jacksonville Fl at the Jacksonville Mem Coliseum. We had a band then. i think we were called Lynyrnd Skynrd but we could have still going by the name The One Percent. I rememer Jethro Tull opened for them and they were great. but eveyone kept in thier seats. When we saw Zeppelin they blew our minds because all of the girls ran up to the stage. Until then everybody stayed in their seats just to listen to bands. Zeppelin were just unbeleivable. They came out and played so good . Page broke out the violin bow and started going...[imitates sounds}. We thought that was so cool" Thanks for this...clarifies Lynrd Skynrd members were ticket holders as opposed to having shared the bill with Led Zeppelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Masson Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I was a kid up here in Iceland in the 1970's, so I didn't see these bands live. But as already pointed out they didn't ever share a bill. Skynyrd were however generally acknowledged as one of the best live bands around, and you can get at least some sense of that by watching this DVD: Excellent playing, great songs, immense presence, even if none of them really moved around a lot - including Ronnie Van Zant. But it's hardly the kind of show that would have blown Zeppelin off stage, is it? I'm thinking The Who maybe could have, but not many others. They stopped appearing on the same bill in 1969, even if they loved hanging out together. Probably it was a bit much for both bands appearing together on the same bill!! It would be interesting to see some thoughts on that by some of the people that did actually experience their shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC455 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thanks for this...clarifies Lynrd Skynrd members were ticket holders as opposed to having shared the bill with Led Zeppelin. Here another from Gary in the issue " We ran into Zeppelin at Hyatt house in LA. That's when everybody was drunk and partying and throwing TVs out the windows.{laughs}. It was crazy party, the whole floor would be partying. Like the movie Almost Famous. We were in some room on that floor with everybody.We didn't meet them formally.We never got that close to them. We were younger than everyone and kind of in awe.We did see them inthe hotel comming in and out, getting into their limos. that was really exciting because we were fans. We didnt want to bother them and run up to them because they has so many fans around them. As a matter of fact Cameron Crowe was a friend of ours and was with us back in those days. He was amazed at it all. We were just kids" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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