Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones

[glicine]

Spot on Steve! Very interesting. I had not heard the info about the 72 jam.

However, I do recall 'Supernaut' being mentioned in reference to the 1970 jam. Hmmm.

The plot thickens.

And I defintely remember reading that Ritchie Blackmore interview where he so casually says the recordings from the jam with Zeppelin is in his attic. I remember so vividly because I was thinking: "Well,why DON'T you release them???"

Either way, I look forward to any follow up on this intriguing subject.

Thanks again.

Actually I wondered why Ritchie Blackmore would have the recordings of a Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin jam? It's a bit confusing isn't it?

And how could Ritchie release the songs since they were not his?

Edited: Oops I'm a bit slow. See it's already corrected. Sorry.

Edited May 23, 2009 by glicine

[SteveAJones]

'The Holy Sabbath'

Ozzy and Tony talk drugs, the devil and how they invented heavy metal

by Matt Diehl of Rolling Stone Apr 21, 2004

(excerpt below)

Master of Reality (Released 1971)

Iommi: John Bonham, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones came down to the studio and jammed with us when we were finishing the album. We were friends with John Bonham -- he was "local" -- but Bill would never let Bonham play his drums. He was afraid he'd break them. That time we let him, and he did! There's probably a tape of it somewhere.

Osbourne: We had left our manager at that point, and Led Zeppelin wanted to manage us. We didn't want that. We thought it would be . . . degrading to be managed by another band.

[SteveAJones]

This from Ross Halfin's diary:

November 24, 2004

Arrive at Ozzy's at 11am. I'm late! He looks good, he's lost a lot of weight. Loads of police and paperazzi around... Get shooting at 2pm around the house... He soon warms up and is very funny, telling John Bonham stories... Head home in time to miss rush hour... A joy !!!

...and as a by the way...an upcoming concert:

Slash and Friends

Slash with Ronnie Wood, Jason Bonham and Ozzy Osbourne at the Quart Festival, Kristiansand, Norway on Tue, June 30th 2009

Slash is confirmed for the Quart Festival 2009 in Kristiansand, Norway.

Slash will bring some of his close friends and collaborators, including Ronnie Wood from the Rolling Stones. Other guests are Jason Bonham and Ozzy Osbourne.

This is said to be the only performance by Ozzy Osbourne in 2009.

[fsmith9095]

Oh hell, Frank I'm still investigating your previous finds!

The three from Japan certainly appear to be video captures. It is known they were

carrying movie recorders with them as they toured Japan. If memory serves correct

this fact is conclusive in photographs of them visiting the Hiroshima Peace Park.

Ha! Keeping you busy with my wild goose chases am I?

Now that you mention it,I do recall seeing the movie recorders inphotos of them in Japan. Hmmm.

Thanks for the confirmation Steve.

Now to wonder how much of the Stargroves/Headley Grange Sessions were filmed by Eddie. Wow. What an historical document that would be! And another Holy Grail!

While we're on the subject of Holy Grails,I'd also read something where a film of the band in the studio recording Zep II was floating around among the privilged few for a while.

For me,that would be the pinnacle of any Led Zeppelin collector's dream.

As always, I look forward to your feedback. Thanks.

[swandown]

Heavy Metal Kids

Being signed to Atlantic, the Kids crossed paths with Led Zeppelin on a regular basis, even socialising with them from time to time.

Also, their guitarist Mickey Waller had played with Jimmy Page in the '60s (in Mickey Finn & The Blue Men).

[Melanie_72]

No Jacket Required

"I was on tour with Robert Plant and we were staying at the Ambassador in Chicago. We had maybe 30 rooms in the hotel and were paying these exorbitant prices. The second night I was there, I went to the bar dressed fairly smart- proper trousers, not jeans, and a nice leather jacket - and I was told, "Sir, you can't come in here without a jacket." I said, "I'm wearing a jacket." So Robert just pushed the guy aside and walked through. I wasn't going to do that, I was going to stand and argue with the guy. He said, "It's not a proper jacket." To make a long story short, I was livid. I've never been so mad in my life - well, maybe once. I thought of different things to do. Like maybe going down there wearing the right kind of jacket and ordering a drink and just pouring it onto the floor and saying, "Well, I've got a jacket on! You can't do anything to me." Maybe I should smash a few photographs on the wall, a bit of the Robert Plant attitude. But I did nothing, of course. I just moaned about it."

Phil Collins, Playboy interview, October 1986

Interesting story. I can't imagine Phil Collins smashing photographs on the wall, he's just too nice to do that, LOL.

[SteveAJones]

Interesting story. I can't imagine Phil Collins smashing photographs on the wall, he's just too nice to do that, LOL.

This from Natalie S. of San Francisco:

This is an old-school classic restaurant and bar. It's elegant and definitely can remind you of the old days and the classy times that our grandparents enjoyed. Since I had the fortune of staying at this hotel, the Pump Room was just something I had to check out. There are hundreds of photos hanging on the walls of movie stars that have dined here. Even the "newer" photos are printed in sepia, so it keeps the old-school feel.

While we were sitting at the table, we overheard people talking about how long they have been going to The Pump Room. One gentleman said that he had been going here since 1962!! And the woman he was speaking to said she's been going here since 1970!!!

[SteveAJones]

The band were booked into the Roebuck Hotel & arrived around 6pm on August 2nd for

a soundcheck lasting less than an hour.

Clarification has been received that Robert arrived at the Roebuck Hotel on Friday night, (August 3rd), saw too many kids waiting outside, and moved himself and his entourage to the nearby Blakemore hotel.

[Wolfman]

Curious if you have a copy of Jimmy's mug shot (someone started a mug shot thread in Other Bands)? I know I saw it somewhere (I think). It's really strange to think that poor Jimmy was arrested for anything.

P.S. Is there any of Bonzo, Richard Cole,etc. due to the '77 incident?

Edited May 27, 2009 by Wolfman

[Cecil.]

Clarification has been received that Robert arrived at the Roebuck Hotel on Friday night, (August 3rd), saw too many kids waiting outside, and moved himself and his entourage to the nearby Blakemore hotel.

So on the night 4th, did the band not all return to the Roebuck Inn. Thought they all had a

after show beer together? or words to that effect!

[SteveAJones]

Curious if you have a copy of Jimmy's mug shot (someone started a mug shot thread in Other Bands)? I know I saw it somewhere (I think). It's really strange to think that poor Jimmy was arrested for anything.

P.S. Is there any of Bonzo, Richard Cole,etc. due to the '77 incident?

Jimmy's mugshot?! I know there is a passport photo in circulation. Anyway, he has actually been charged more than once for cocaine possession. I seem to recall the

Oakland Police Department did take mugshots of Grant, Bonham and Cole when

they were taken to the Oakland City Jail. Grant was released on $250 bail for one

count of battery.

Edited May 31, 2009 by SteveAJones

[SteveAJones]

So on the night 4th, did the band not all return to the Roebuck Inn? Thought they all had a after show beer together? or words to that effect!

Certainly there was an after show get together of some sort but it has been confirmed Robert and his entourage were booked into accomodations just down the road.

[Wolfman]

Jimmy's mugshot?! I know there is a passport photo in circulation. Anyway, he has actually been charged more than once for cocaine possession. I seem to recall the

Oakland Police Department did take mugshots of Grant, Bonham and Cole when

they were taken to the Oakland City Jail. Grant was released on $250 bail for one

count of battery.

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I'm guessing there is one though since, like you stated, he has been arrested more than once.

[ninelives]

Jimmy's mugshot?! I know there is a passport photo in circulation. Anyway, he has actually been charged more than once for cocaine possession. I seem to recall the

Oakland Police Department did take mugshots of Grant, Bonham and Cole when

they were taken to the Oakland City Jail. Grant was released on $250 bail for one

count of battery.

Isn't that photo included in Neal Preston's book "Portraits"?

[viper227]

Interview with Jay Kaye

December 13 2006

JK: It was only on the day we played that we found out we would be the opening band for Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull!

Man, that must have been exciting. How'd it go?

JK: We all arrived in separate vehicles with Chip and Mike in the van with all our gear. I remember Stash, the drummer and me behind the stage at the fairgrounds watching a small army of light and sound techs running around like ants. We approached a guy who looked like he was directing things and he asked, "How much ya got?" We pointed to our van.

With kind of a smirky half smile he says, “Just leave it in the van for now, your stuff is going on last.”

We looked up when the ground started vibrating from three giant 16-wheelers as they swung on to the grounds and reversed right up to the stage! The doors swung open, the ramps came down and out rolled the biggest flight cases I'd ever seen. It was Zep's gear. Two semis full of amplifiers and drum gear and a giant Chinese gong all in flight cases.

Jimmy Page's gear went stage right. Three stacks of 1000-watt Hiwatt tops with two 4x12 cabs. All of his toys went around the perimeter front stage right. John Paul Jones had three 1000-watt Ampeg refrigerators and a couple of stomp pedals. I think one was a Dunlop rotovibe, along with a Wurlitzer piano. Bonham brought his beautiful copper and black "Tiger Stripe" Ludwig’s with the 40-inch kick that’s got the front skin on.

John’s very economical cymbal set up included two crashes, left and right and a high hat and hook for the tambourine. Then to the fight, the big Chinese gong. After the gear was positioned then marked with tape on the floor, it was all moved back to make room for Tull's gear. Our back line seemed to disappear before the armory that barricaded the back of the stage. I got a bit spooked by the intensity level those guys were operating at, and by the realization that we were way out gunned on the back line power issue. Plus the fact that Zep and Tull were already legendary "rock gods" back then.

So, you're this local group warming up a crowd for a couple of monsters of rock.

JK: I know I didn't show it, but I was humbled and awestruck. So, I went back to the trailer for a beer and a smoke!

I just peeked in and there was nobody around and the food and drinks hadn't arrived yet. So, back to the stage and they were just about ready for our stuff. Chip backed our van to the stage, the roadies shifted the B3 and Leslie to front stage left, Mike's bass amp went left center back beside the drummer. Right in front of the massive bass towers of Tull stood my awesome 2x15 Vox Super Beatle cab with the 100-watt Vox Super Beatle top placed in front of Martin Barren’s two Goliath Marshall stacks.

I overheard a sound tech complaining that the floor plan was too small for a concert of this magnitude because the microphone stands were already to the edge stage front, so there was no room for the floor monitors to go. And I noticed then that the stage could've been higher too, it was only about five feet high. There were some stressed out sound dudes roaming around the place.

I walked into the dressing rooms. They were just two grey porta trailers stuck together with a fold out step. I peeked in to see Clive Bunker warming up with his sticks on his knee. He was a friendly chap. He said, "Hello," with a smile. I took my guitar out of the case and sat down and began to go through the tunes and riffs on my unplugged guitar. Martin Barre came in with a smile and a nod to everyone. We had about five minutes left before we all made our way to the back stage ramp.

At that moment, the dressing room door swung open and in flew Ian Anderson, not touching the door to close it and with a hurried step to the back of the room, he swung around looking like Fagan from the Oliver Twist tale with a grumpy scowl and looking through his eye brows at us as if we had crashed his private dressing room. He whispered something to Barre and then left in the hurried fashion in which he came leaving the door open.

We were on our way out anyway. It was almost nine o’clock and the sun was just starting to go down. We were huddled at the bottom of the back stage ramp listening to some local D.J. psyche up five thousand hippies and students screaming into a roar.

Then over the loudspeakers we heard, "Stash Wagner and the Fraternity of Man!"

So, did you crumble or did you rock?

JK: I was the first one up and to my side of the stage. I didn't see anything but my amp as I was plugging the cable into my axe. I checked to see if the light was on and then I pivoted around. It was awesome, terrifying, wonderful, and kinda funny. I was laughing to myself as I looked out over a small sea of heads making that incredible noise.

Then I heard the drum sticks clicking in tempo for the first tune and we began. It was a medium tempo funky groove called "Feelin' Good". And it sounded good! Stash was still off stage waiting until the groove was really simmering and the crowd was into the music.

And just then I heard the roar, and I looked up and there he stood at the mic blowing his harp. Mike and I were smiling ear to ear and we had the time of our lives with Stash as our driver. He didn't have a great voice but he had a distinct tonal quality and was a good showman.

The crowd must have heard of you guys or at least recognized Stash.

JK: Fraternity of Man was a legendary anti-establishment underground band. Their song "Don't Bogart That Joint" became one of the anthems of that era! We didn't even get to finish the "Don't Bogart" lyric when the crowd joined in singing and throwing joints and other stuff up on stage. Naturally, Stash lit one up which caused some hysteria. Chicks were taking their tops off while Stash and I threw the offerings back to the crowd. We were having a really groovy concert! We had a short set and when we thanked the crowd before we got off stage, they protested! But, not for long since they knew, like I knew, that the magic had only just begun.

Don't leave us with that. You've got to tell us what the Tull and Zeppelin shows were like.

JK: Sure! Walking back to the trailers, I passed Clive and Martin on their way to the stage, no sign of Mr. Anderson or his bass player. I opened the trailer door and there they were, John B. and John Paul in conversation, cordial smiles and hellos to us as we went right for the beers and what was on the table to munch.

All of a sudden Robert Plant storms in, annoyed and distressed, dodging a tall, long-blond-haired, big breasted, good looking Amazon "groupie" dressed in nothing but a black micro mini toga, "G "string, and spiked high heels. She was all over him! Robert was struggling to keep her off. His mates were making wisecracks, laughing, and we were all in there with our girlfriends, except for Stash who was watching the show.

The groupie didn't care who and how many were watching. She was on a mission. Poor Robert pulled her out of the trailer, closed the door and ten seconds later he was back inside without her. Two security gorillas had pulled her off him and threw her out. There was a lot of hushed giggling all around. I think Plant was a little embarrassed, but had a laugh about it too. So, there I was just relaxing with my girlfriend and the gang drinking my beer trying not to be too impressed or stare too long at some of the greatest rockers and fathers of rock history.

Where was Page?

JK: Jimmy Page walked in with a big smile for everyone, a guitar case in hand and a, "Good evening!" in a very Londoner accent. He laid the case across two chairs just opposite of me. He opened the lid and turned toward me with a wink and a smile and spoke to me like I was an old friend.

Smiling he said, "'Ere. come an 'ave a look at this mate." It was a '57 Goldtop Les Paul in mint condition. He said he found it that afternoon in a pawn shop in Santa Barbara. I congratulated him on his find and went back to my place thinking, "Here I am 17-years-old, I just played for five thousand screaming hippies and I'm hanging with the boys from Zep and Tull, talking to Jimmy Page about guitars and now I'm gonna go watch Jethro Tull finish their set from backstage!"

We all watched Led Zeppelin from the back too. The sound quality wasn't as good as out front, but they were awesome from beginning to end. We never saw our $800 that Stash said we'd each get. He told us that his manager took our share of the money and skipped. He paid us a $100 each out of his own pocket.

(For full article:http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/002609.html)

[Aquamarine]

Jimmy must have adopted the cockney accent for the occasion!

[SteveAJones]

Isn't that photo included in Neal Preston's book "Portraits"?

Yes, I believe it is and if I recall correctly it was taken circa 1977. It's in b&w.

[SteveAJones]

Interview with Jay Kaye

December 13 2006

Where was Page?

JK: Jimmy Page walked in with a big smile for everyone, a guitar case in hand and a, "Good evening!" in a very Londoner accent. He laid the case across two chairs just opposite of me. He opened the lid and turned toward me with a wink and a smile and spoke to me like I was an old friend.

Smiling he said, "'Ere. come an 'ave a look at this mate." It was a '57 Goldtop Les Paul in mint condition. He said he found it that afternoon in a pawn shop in Santa Barbara. I congratulated him on his find and went back to my place thinking, "Here I am 17-years-old, I just played for five thousand screaming hippies and I'm hanging with the boys from Zep and Tull, talking to Jimmy Page about guitars and now I'm gonna go watch Jethro Tull finish their set from backstage!"

Outstanding post!

To this day I am still amazed by the amount of antique shopping and "treasure hunting" Jimmy undertook in those days while on tour. I'd not heard of this particular one before.

It's been duly added to his chronology (with the caveat he could have been kidding!).

The anecdote matches their show at the Earl Warren Showgrounds - Warren Hall in

Santa Barbara on August 1st 1969. Jimmy had called Miss Pamela from his room at

the Continental Riot House in Los Angeles that morning to invite her to the concert.

After the show she rode back with him in the limo to LA, where they joined in the revelry at Thee Experience. She left before his girlfriend arrived, but this began their romantic relationship.

Edited June 1, 2009 by SteveAJones

[ninelives]

Yes, I believe it is and if I recall correctly it was taken circa 1977. It's in b&w.

That's the one I was thinking of (b&w) and yes, I think it was 1977.

[PlanetPage]

That's the one I was thinking of (b&w) and yes, I think it was 1977.

http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?sh...c=23&st=280

[SteveAJones]

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[SteveAJones]

Boleskine House

Boleskine Burial Ground

Photographed June 4, 1987

Photo Credits: Steve A. Jones

[eternal light]

Spooky

That would be my cue to say a prayer.

Fæder úre,

ðú ðe eart on heofonum,

Sí ðín nama gehálgod.

Tó becume ðín rice.

Gewurde ðín willa on eorþan swá swá on heofonum.

Urne dægwhamlícan hlaf syle ús tódæg.

And forgyf ús úre gyltas,

Swá swá wé forgyfaþ úrum gyltendum.

And ne gelæd ðu ús on costnunge, ac álýs ús of yfele.

Sóþlice.

Fæder ure,

ðu ðe eart on heofenum,

si ðin nama gehalgod;

to-becume ðin rice;

geweorþe ðin willa on eorðan swa swa on heofenum.

Urne ge dæghwamlican hlaf syle us to-deag,

and forgyf us ure gyltas

swa swa we forgifaþ urum gyltendum,

ane ne gelæde ðu us on costnunge, ac alys us of yfle.

Amen.

After this manner therefore pray ye:

Our Father which art in heaven,

Hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:

For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.

Amen.

Matthew 6:9-13 KJV

I was bitten by a boar

I was gouged and I was gored

But I pulled on through

Yes, I'm a sack of broken eggs

I always have an unmade bed

Don't you?

Well, I hope we're not too messianic

Or a trifle too satanic

We love to play the blues

-Jagger/Richards

Edited June 8, 2009 by eternal light

[Wolfman]

Passport photo