SteveAJones Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Same night(s) - after one of the LA ARMS concerts - I'm guessing backstage, before the club-hopping. Is this another photo by Steve Granitz? Who is the woman between Phil and Jimmy? By all accounts In Dallas and San Francisco a nervous Jimmy did not venture out and essentially kept to himself, seldom socializing with the other musicians but on Sun, Dec 4 1984 he checked into the Sunset Marquis (registering as "James McGregor") upon arrival from San Francisco and placed a call to Richard Cole (residing in Hollywood). They reunited at the Rainbow Bar & Grill prior to the first of two LA Forum gigs the next night and Richard was in attendance for the show. Given Phil Carlo is wearing his ARMS tour pass this was probably taken backstage at one of the two LA Forum concers as you suggested. Here's a shot of Richard & Jimmy seated at the Rainbow allegedly taken after one of those same two LA Forum concerts, and almost certainly on the same date as your photo: As you can see Jimmy is wearing his "butterfly jacket" whereas in first set of shots he's wearing the earth-tone coat. The more I think about it I believe these were taken before & after the first LA Forum gig (12/5) and all the earth-tone shots at the Rainbow immediately after the second LA Forum gig (12/6) but since I'm going from memory at the moment it's best to call such speculation unconfirmed. I do have a shot of Jimmy leaving a hotel wearing the earth-tone jacket and clutching what seem to be posters or lithographs of some sort. I believe I confirmed the hotel to be the Sunset Marquis but again I'm going from memory. I'll get that photo posted this weekend provided I can find it. Edited November 10, 2011 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Same night(s) - after one of the LA ARMS concerts - I'm guessing backstage, before the club-hopping. Is this another photo by Steve Granitz? Who is the woman between Phil and Jimmy? Woman? Isn't it John Waite? Actually I think Michael DesB! And Jimmy's scarf is white on the other pics, if that means anything. Edited November 10, 2011 by Knebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Steve you will see from the chat in this thread http://forums.ledzep...-misc-pictures/ that I see one of the pics as being taken by photographer Ron Gallela - and he has a website with a "Contact Us" facility Edited November 10, 2011 by Knebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Woman? Isn't it John Waite? Actually I think Michael DesB! And Jimmy's scarf is white on the other pics, if that means anything. It is Michael DesBarres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 Knebby - Eye Thank Yew! FireOpal - Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aen27 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 It is Michael DesBarres. I was going to say it looks to be him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I did say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 By all accounts In Dallas and San Francisco a nervous Jimmy did not venture out and essentially kept to himself, seldom socializing with the other musicians but on Sun, Dec 4 1984 he checked into the Sunset Marquis (registering as "James McGregor") upon arrival from San Francisco and placed a call to Richard Cole (residing in Hollywood). They reunited at the Rainbow Bar & Grill prior to the first of two LA Forum gigs the next night and Richard was in attendance for the show. Given Phil Carlo is wearing his ARMS tour pass this was probably taken backstage at one of the two LA Forum concers as you suggested. Here's a shot of Richard & Jimmy seated at the Rainbow allegedly taken after one of those same two LA Forum concerts, and almost certainly on the same date as your photo: As you can see Jimmy is wearing his "butterfly jacket" whereas in first set of shots he's wearing the earth-tone coat. The more I think about it I believe these were taken before & after the first LA Forum gig (12/5) and all the earth-tone shots at the Rainbow immediately after the second LA Forum gig (12/6) but since I'm going from memory at the moment it's best to call such speculation unconfirmed. I do have a shot of Jimmy leaving a hotel wearing the earth-tone jacket and clutching what seem to be posters or lithographs of some sort. I believe I confirmed the hotel to be the Sunset Marquis but again I'm going from memory. I'll get that photo posted this weekend provided I can find it. Woman? Isn't it John Waite? Actually I think Michael DesB! And Jimmy's scarf is white on the other pics, if that means anything. I was going to say it looks to be him too. I don't know anything about the outfits, the hotel, the exact dates and times, but I do know that these photos are from the LA ARMS concerts days, late 1983, early December. I'm sorry if I offended or offend anyone here by suggesting that was a woman in the photo but I'm bad with faces (thought it might have been a female musician)...and I've always thought that Michael Des B. was a somewhat effeminate-looking man. Even now, knowing it's him in that photo, I still see a girlish sort of face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Don't think any offence was taken MSG - unless MDB reads this - and even then he might take it as a compliment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Don't think any offence was taken MSG - unless MDB reads this - and even then he might take it as a compliment Thanks. No doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aen27 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) This may sound silly, but why was the picture taken down? I wanted to save it. I didn't find any of this offensive. Edited November 12, 2011 by aen27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScreamingGallery Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 This may sound silly, but why was the picture taken down? I wanted to save it. I didn't find any of this offensive. I didn't feel right having it up here after what I said. I'll PM you a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsmith9095 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 This appears to be an outtake from TSRTS....when Robert is emerging from the cave during Rain Song. But its too dark and too odd to say for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 This appears to be an outtake from TSRTS....when Robert is emerging from the cave during Rain Song. But its too dark and too odd to say for sure. Take another look, Frank. The sun is streaming in through the window behind him. The window matches those at Raglan Castle and the presence of a tall-standing candlestick holder (barely visible on the far right) also suggests it was taken within the interior of Raglan Castle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsmith9095 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Ah yes.That makes perfect sense now that you have illuminated the scene. Your Zep insight and scholarship never ceases to amaze,Steve. Thanks once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Melanie Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 rare Neal Preston '77 pic I have never seen this jacket before. For some reason I am drawing a blank. Are there other photos of him wearing it? Did he wear it at other concert dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) I have never seen this jacket before. For some reason I am drawing a blank. Are there other photos of him wearing it? Did he wear it at other concert dates? its just the poppy suit isnt it?:S Edited November 21, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Melanie Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 its just the poppy suit isnt it?:S Ooops! Yes it is the poppy suit. For whatever reason, the other photo made the jacket look slightly different to me. Actually I know the reason. This is a perfect example of why I need to wear my glasses. Thanks Stairway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Ooops! Yes it is the poppy suit. For whatever reason, the other photo made the jacket look slightly different to me. Actually I know the reason. This is a perfect example of why I need to wear my glasses. Thanks Stairway. Aha! It happens to the best of us, I thought you meant Robert or something at first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) I will reconfirm just to be sure but aside from some of them having been taken by Steve Granitz, an L.A.-based photog, and the jacket matching the one worn by Jimmy's on the airplane wing at LAX I have several other shots from this night and as I recall the interior matches that of the Rainbow Bar & Grill. It also seems to me the automobile behind them probably would not face the way it does - to the right - alongside a UK curb, for that would put it against the flow of traffic. Here are two others from the same night. It seems to me he's either entering/leaving The Forum or more likely The Rainbow Bar & Grill while on the December 1983 ARMS tour. Then again, it could be San Francisco. Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Edited November 24, 2011 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 I think we'll solve this one eventually. Most likely checking out of his hotel in San Francisco or Los Angeles, December 1983. Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Almost certainly Los Angeles, December 1983. Perhaps the airport, hotel or venue. Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 I obtained this photo from a private collector in Los Angeles about 16 years. He thought it might have been taken outside the Rainbow in March 1985 when The Firm was on tour. However, I don't think there were ever any crooked trees in front of The Rainbow, just a tall straight palm tree. The lamp post matches those found in Southern California. I suspect this picture may have been taken as Jimmy was leaving the after-show party Atlantic hosted for the band following their performance at the Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa on March 16, 1985. However, unconfirmed. Photo courtesy Steve A. Jones Archive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not really a mystery but could someone please post all known pictures of this session Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ77 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 to Steve: is the girl on the right the same "Aubrey" that was with Plant in 1977? http://www.rosshalfin.com/diary/december-2011/diary-december-2011.php look at the pic titled: Peter Makowski San Francisco 1981 with Jean and Audrey at the Day On The Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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