JohnOsbourne Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 As long as others are being cheeky (always loved that Brit term), if someone can PM me a link to this show, I would be most grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Torrent banned from dime, at the "manufacturers" request. I've never see that happen so quickly with a new Zep release before. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, porgie66 said: Torrent banned from dime, at the "manufacturers" request. I've never see that happen so quickly with a new Zep release before. Wow. It was banned for a short while, it has now been reseeded. Edited August 2, 2017 by JTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 1 minute ago, JTM said: It was banned for a short while, it has now been reseeded. I assumed that'd be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThelegendaryZepp Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Could a helpful fellow zep fan pm me the torrent links. I can't seem to access dime links from my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Why don't you buy a copy of this set altogether (spreading $$$ to few of you) instead of continuous gimme gimme attitude everytime the new stuff is out? It's always great to see that something new is on the horizon and I do understand the whole enjoyment coming around but with this statement is quite clearly to learn that without any kind of donating, the label won't be able to release anything new in the future. [ Sorry, mods if I said something that may affect the group's legacy, if so just please get my post rid off the forum then ;). ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Inside the set there's a layout with such info. Only idiot couldn't understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Artwork looks awesome. That first picture of the Promo box especially. A shame that there aren't many photos of the 3/21 show out there. The photos that EV used are all from the first Seattle show, 3/17. Edited August 2, 2017 by pluribus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Only listened to the first disc so far, but man alive it's even better than i imagined. Plant sounds pretty great for '75. Page is also on top form and the sound of the boot is excellent. The wait was worth it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockDude4492 Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Just got a hold of this. Totally worth the wait. A prime example of why Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band to ever grace this mortal earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepHead315 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Listening to Dazed now. By God, are they ever on fire! Love hearing Bonzo say "Again!" when they're jamming on a killer break. Easily the best Dazed of '75, and the only one that can even compete with versions from earlier years IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozoso73 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 To those who bought it directly from EV. . What were the prices??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo_fan Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 It's especially a shame that whatever Plantations there may have been before "Communication Breakdown" are missing from the tape, as they are missing from the audience source as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrum77634 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 7 hours ago, Bozoso73 said: To those who bought it directly from EV. . What were the prices??? I think you have to walk into Blind Faith in Tokyo to get direct EV prices but if you are that local it's 35,000 yen (Regular), 56,000 (Promo) and 59,000 (deluxe). Most re-sellers add approximately 10% foreigner tax and another 5% paypal fees. Dollar wise $350/$500/$600 plus shipping and paypal fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstarless Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Has anyone heard the audience sources from the Seattle box? Would be interested on how good the upgrade was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 No upgrade, both are taken from previous releases of 3/17 and 3/21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstarless Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 thanks. So really the same discs as from "Dinosaur In Motion" ? wow . Not worth getting the big 14 Disc then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawls Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 21 hours ago, porgie66 said: Torrent banned from dime, at the "manufacturers" request. I've never see that happen so quickly with a new Zep release before. Wow. That's too funny. I'm not a big fan of the mods at DIME but I hope they told the 'manufacturer' to go f*%k themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawls Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I'd love to know the details behind how these tapes were made, who got them and how and what specifically goes on between the owners and the 'labels' for a release like this. The '75 boards all sound so much better than those from the tours immediately before and after. I'm curious about what equipment and tapes were used. The '75 shows sound as if they were recorded on reel to reel tape while the '73 boards sound as if they were recorded on cheap cassettes. I'm assuming they're all 2 track mixes but the '75 shows do have some extra ambience to them and sound as if there may be a crowd mic lightly mixed in. Not sure. I was reading Stephen Davis' 'Led Zeppelin '75' book last night on my kindle to see which shows he though were the best as he covered the entire tour and attended every show. He loved the MSG 2/12 and St. Louis 2/16 shows, didn't like the Nassau or Dallas shows, thought the Seattle Vancouver shows were the best of the tour and gave mixed reviews on the LA Forum shows. Everything else was kind of so-so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 39 minutes ago, Frawls said: I'd love to know the details behind how these tapes were made, who got them and how and what specifically goes on between the owners and the 'labels' for a release like this. The '75 boards all sound so much better than those from the tours immediately before and after. I'm curious about what equipment and tapes were used. The '75 shows sound as if they were recorded on reel to reel tape while the '73 boards sound as if they were recorded on cheap cassettes. I'm assuming they're all 2 track mixes but the '75 shows do have some extra ambience to them and sound as if there may be a crowd mic lightly mixed in. Not sure. I was reading Stephen Davis' 'Led Zeppelin '75' book last night on my kindle to see which shows he though were the best as he covered the entire tour and attended every show. He loved the MSG 2/12 and St. Louis 2/16 shows, didn't like the Nassau or Dallas shows, thought the Seattle Vancouver shows were the best of the tour and gave mixed reviews on the LA Forum shows. Everything else was kind of so-so. Including Austin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedElvis75 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 43 minutes ago, Frawls said: I'd love to know the details behind how these tapes were made, who got them and how and what specifically goes on between the owners and the 'labels' for a release like this. The '75 boards all sound so much better than those from the tours immediately before and after. I'm curious about what equipment and tapes were used. The '75 shows sound as if they were recorded on reel to reel tape while the '73 boards sound as if they were recorded on cheap cassettes. I'm assuming they're all 2 track mixes but the '75 shows do have some extra ambience to them and sound as if there may be a crowd mic lightly mixed in. Not sure. Quote I was reading Stephen Davis' 'Led Zeppelin '75' book last night on my kindle to see which shows he though were the best as he covered the entire tour and attended every show. He loved the MSG 2/12 and St. Louis 2/16 shows, didn't like the Nassau or Dallas shows, thought the Seattle Vancouver shows were the best of the tour and gave mixed reviews on the LA Forum shows. Everything else was kind of so-so. Well, I could've told you that!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmtomh Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 44 minutes ago, Frawls said: I'd love to know the details behind how these tapes were made, who got them and how and what specifically goes on between the owners and the 'labels' for a release like this. The '75 boards all sound so much better than those from the tours immediately before and after. I'm curious about what equipment and tapes were used. The '75 shows sound as if they were recorded on reel to reel tape while the '73 boards sound as if they were recorded on cheap cassettes. I'm assuming they're all 2 track mixes but the '75 shows do have some extra ambience to them and sound as if there may be a crowd mic lightly mixed in. Not sure. I was reading Stephen Davis' 'Led Zeppelin '75' book last night on my kindle to see which shows he though were the best as he covered the entire tour and attended every show. He loved the MSG 2/12 and St. Louis 2/16 shows, didn't like the Nassau or Dallas shows, thought the Seattle Vancouver shows were the best of the tour and gave mixed reviews on the LA Forum shows. Everything else was kind of so-so. Good questions! The problem with the 1973 tapes, from what I understand, is that they were copied, or transferred to digital, using a tape deck (presumably a cassette deck) with improper azimuth alignment. That is, the tape head was not exactly 90 degrees perpendicular to the tape (or else it was, but the deck that the recordings original was made on was not). This results in an inability to capture all the high frequencies when playing back the tape during copying or digitization. That's why the '73 tapes are so muffled, and why there's hardly any cymbals at all on a lot of them. 1977 is more of a mystery - I have no idea why they don't sound better. As for the extra audience on the '75 tapes, I'm guessing that's just down to the type of equipment and/or the mic placement in '75 vs '73 and '77. As for Davis' appraisal of parts of the '75 tour, I certainly agree with him about MSG 2-12 and the Seattle and Vancouver shows - as to most hardcore Zep fans. St. Louis, though, is IMHO decent but not great. And conversely, while the tapes themselves unfortunately are a bit harsh-sounding, I think the performances in Nassau/Uniondale 2-13 and 2-14 are fantastic, especially 2-13. Dallas I agree is so-so, especially the first night (3-4). And I enthusiastically agree with him about the 3-24, 25 and 27 LA Forum shows - I never loved them and think they're overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrum77634 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, zepster1979 said: No upgrade, both are taken from previous releases of 3/17 and 3/21. I did ask that question before ordering given EV's regular (mis)use of the word "remastered"....got a non-committal answer along the lines of "I haven't heard it so can't comment". I'm not surprised however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawls Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, tmtomh said: The problem with the 1973 tapes, from what I understand, is that they were copied, or transferred to digital, using a tape deck (presumably a cassette deck) with improper azimuth alignment. That is, the tape head was not exactly 90 degrees perpendicular to the tape (or else it was, but the deck that the recordings original was made on was not). This results in an inability to capture all the high frequencies when playing back the tape during copying or digitization. That's why the '73 tapes are so muffled, and why there's hardly any cymbals at all on a lot of them. That makes sense. They really are very muffled and thin. The one exception is the SBD fragment from Kezar Stadium which I think sounds much better than any of the others I've heard from '73. I think some of the '77 SBD sound fine even if they're not as good as the '75 boards. It's just JPJ's bass is so thin! It's interesting to me that the first '75 board to come out (AFAIK) was the 3/4 show which I actually heard on our local classic rock station back in 1990 or 1991 and subsequently got a tape of it. There was a pretty big gap between that show and the leak of the 2/12 SBD over 10 years later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedElvis75 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, tmtomh said: Good questions! The problem with the 1973 tapes, from what I understand, is that they were copied, or transferred to digital, using a tape deck (presumably a cassette deck) with improper azimuth alignment. That is, the tape head was not exactly 90 degrees perpendicular to the tape (or else it was, but the deck that the recordings original was made on was not). This results in an inability to capture all the high frequencies when playing back the tape during copying or digitization. That's why the '73 tapes are so muffled, and why there's hardly any cymbals at all on a lot of them. 1977 is more of a mystery - I have no idea why they don't sound better. As for the extra audience on the '75 tapes, I'm guessing that's just down to the type of equipment and/or the mic placement in '75 vs '73 and '77. As for Davis' appraisal of parts of the '75 tour, I certainly agree with him about MSG 2-12 and the Seattle and Vancouver shows - as to most hardcore Zep fans. St. Louis, though, is IMHO decent but not great. And conversely, while the tapes themselves unfortunately are a bit harsh-sounding, I think the performances in Nassau/Uniondale 2-13 and 2-14 are fantastic, especially 2-13. Dallas I agree is so-so, especially the first night (3-4). And I enthusiastically agree with him about the 3-24, 25 and 27 LA Forum shows - I never loved them and think they're overrated. If there was a tell-all book describing/detailing these Zep SBD releases I'd be one of the first ones in line to buy it. This shit absolutely fascinates the hell out of me. God, what I wouldn't do to see a list of the shows they're sitting on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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