3hrsoflunacy Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 There are 111 performances in circulation, courtesy of another site: Date Arena Location Length 19-Jun-72 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 3:01 25-Jun-72 The Forum Inglewood 5:03 27-Jun-72 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 5:07 28-Jun-72 Tucson Community Center Tucson 5:13 2-Oct-72 Budokan Hall Tokyo 5:23 3-Oct-72 Budokan Hall Tokyo 5:38 4-Oct-72 Koseinenkin Kaikan Osaka 5:27 9-Oct-72 Koseinenkin Kaikan Osaka 5:49 10-Oct-72 Kyoto Kaikan #1 Kyoto 5:14 30-Nov-72 City Hall Newcastle 5:30 1-Dec-72 City Hall Newcastle 5:28 4-Dec-72 Green's Playhouse Glasgow 5:39 8-Dec-72 Hard Rock Concert Theatre Manchester 5:55 16-Dec-72 Odeon Birmingham 5:16 22-Dec-72 Alexandra Palace London 5:38 23-Dec-72 Alexandra Palace London 5:56 2-Jan-73 City Hall Sheffield 5:38 7-Jan-73 New Theatre Oxford 5:05 14-Jan-73 Empire Liverpool 5:34 15-Jan-73 Trentham Gardens Stoke-On-Trent 5:43 18-Jan-73 St. George's Hall Bradford 3:57 22-Jan-73 Old Refectory Southampton 5:53 25-Jan-73 Music Hall Aberdeen 5:56 27-Jan-73 Caird Hall Dundee 4:02 28-Jan-73 King's Theatre Edinburgh 5:58 30-Jan-73 Public Hall Preston 6:01 6-Mar-73 Kungliga Tennishallen Stockholm 6:20 14-Mar-73 Messehalle Nuremberg 6:07 16-Mar-73 Wiener Stadthalle Vienna 5:33 17-Mar-73 Olympiahalle Munich 5:40 19-Mar-73 Deutschlandhalle Berlin 5:53 22-Mar-73 Gruga-Halle Essen 5:46 24-Mar-73 Ortenauhalle Offenburg 5:29 27-Mar-73 Parc Des Expositions Nancy 5:50 1-Apr-73 Centre Sportif Saint-Ouen 5:18 2-Apr-73 Centre Sportif Saint-Ouen 5:48 5-May-73 Tampa Stadium Tampa 5:44 13-May-73 The Auditorium Mobile 5:42 14-May-73 Municipal Auditorium New Orleans 6:03 16-May-73 Sam Houston Arena Houston 5:49 18-May-73 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 6:15 19-May-73 Tarrant County Convention Center Ft. Worth 6:04 26-May-73 Salt Palace Salt Lake City 5:53 28-May-73 Sports Arena San Diego 5:42 31-May-73 The Forum Inglewood 5:58 2-Jun-73 Kezar Stadium San Francisco 5:38 3-Jun-73 The Forum Inglewood 1:48 6-Jul-73 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:05 7-Jul-73 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:05 9-Jul-73 Civic Center Arena St Paul 6:01 10-Jul-73 Milwaukee Arena Milwaukee 6:05 12-Jul-73 Cobo Hall Detroit 6:04 15-Jul-73 War Memorial Auditorium Buffalo 6:24 17-Jul-73 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 6:12 18-Jul-73 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 6:10 20-Jul-73 Boston Garden Boston 5:50 21-Jul-73 Civic Center Providence 5:37 23-Jul-73 Civic Center Baltimore 6:43 24-Jul-73 Three Rivers Stadium Pittsburgh 6:07 28-Jul-73 Madison Square Garden New York 6:06 29-Jul-73 Madison Square Garden New York 6:02 12-Jan-75 Vorst Nationaal Brussels 5:44 20-Jan-75 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:17 24-Jan-75 Richfield Coliseum Richfield 6:22 25-Jan-75 Market Square Arena Indianapolis 6:56 29-Jan-75 The Coliseum Greensboro 6:16 31-Jan-75 Olympia Stadium Detroit 6:19 3-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 6:20 4-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 6:34 6-Feb-75 The Forum Montreal 7:09 7-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 6:18 8-Feb-75 The Spectrum Philadelphia 6:21 10-Feb-75 Capital Centre Landover 7:48 12-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 7:48 13-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 7:24 14-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 8:11 16-Feb-75 St. Louis Arena St. Louis 6:33 28-Feb-75 Assembly Center Baton Rouge 6:38 4-Mar-75 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 6:47 5-Mar-75 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 7:20 10-Mar-75 Sports Arena San Diego 8:28 11-Mar-75 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 6:47 12-Mar-75 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 6:51 14-Mar-75 Sports Arena San Diego 7:16 17-Mar-75 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 8:13 19-Mar-75 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 7:22 20-Mar-75 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 7:37 21-Mar-75 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 7:15 24-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 6:33 25-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 6:37 27-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 8:32 17-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 6:31 18-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:01 23-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:10 24-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:06 25-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:04 10-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 5:53 13-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 6:27 14-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 6:21 21-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 6:11 22-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 7:06 23-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 6:31 26-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 7:12 27-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 8:00 17-Jul-77 The Kingdome Seattle 7:34 23-Jul-77 Alameda County Coliseum Oakland 6:52 24-Jul-77 Alameda County Coliseum Oakland 5:21 23-Jul-79 Falkoner Teatret Copenhagen 6:13 24-Jul-79 Falkoner Teatret Copenhagen 5:51 4-Aug-79 Knebworth Park Stevenage 5:54 11-Aug-79 Knebworth Park Stevenage 5:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppFanForever Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 There are 111 performances in circulation, courtesy of another site: Date Arena Location Length 19-Jun-72 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 3:01 25-Jun-72 The Forum Inglewood 5:03 27-Jun-72 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 5:07 28-Jun-72 Tucson Community Center Tucson 5:13 2-Oct-72 Budokan Hall Tokyo 5:23 3-Oct-72 Budokan Hall Tokyo 5:38 4-Oct-72 Koseinenkin Kaikan Osaka 5:27 9-Oct-72 Koseinenkin Kaikan Osaka 5:49 10-Oct-72 Kyoto Kaikan #1 Kyoto 5:14 30-Nov-72 City Hall Newcastle 5:30 1-Dec-72 City Hall Newcastle 5:28 4-Dec-72 Green's Playhouse Glasgow 5:39 8-Dec-72 Hard Rock Concert Theatre Manchester 5:55 16-Dec-72 Odeon Birmingham 5:16 22-Dec-72 Alexandra Palace London 5:38 23-Dec-72 Alexandra Palace London 5:56 2-Jan-73 City Hall Sheffield 5:38 7-Jan-73 New Theatre Oxford 5:05 14-Jan-73 Empire Liverpool 5:34 15-Jan-73 Trentham Gardens Stoke-On-Trent 5:43 18-Jan-73 St. George's Hall Bradford 3:57 22-Jan-73 Old Refectory Southampton 5:53 25-Jan-73 Music Hall Aberdeen 5:56 27-Jan-73 Caird Hall Dundee 4:02 28-Jan-73 King's Theatre Edinburgh 5:58 30-Jan-73 Public Hall Preston 6:01 6-Mar-73 Kungliga Tennishallen Stockholm 6:20 14-Mar-73 Messehalle Nuremberg 6:07 16-Mar-73 Wiener Stadthalle Vienna 5:33 17-Mar-73 Olympiahalle Munich 5:40 19-Mar-73 Deutschlandhalle Berlin 5:53 22-Mar-73 Gruga-Halle Essen 5:46 24-Mar-73 Ortenauhalle Offenburg 5:29 27-Mar-73 Parc Des Expositions Nancy 5:50 1-Apr-73 Centre Sportif Saint-Ouen 5:18 2-Apr-73 Centre Sportif Saint-Ouen 5:48 5-May-73 Tampa Stadium Tampa 5:44 13-May-73 The Auditorium Mobile 5:42 14-May-73 Municipal Auditorium New Orleans 6:03 16-May-73 Sam Houston Arena Houston 5:49 18-May-73 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 6:15 19-May-73 Tarrant County Convention Center Ft. Worth 6:04 26-May-73 Salt Palace Salt Lake City 5:53 28-May-73 Sports Arena San Diego 5:42 31-May-73 The Forum Inglewood 5:58 2-Jun-73 Kezar Stadium San Francisco 5:38 3-Jun-73 The Forum Inglewood 1:48 6-Jul-73 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:05 7-Jul-73 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:05 9-Jul-73 Civic Center Arena St Paul 6:01 10-Jul-73 Milwaukee Arena Milwaukee 6:05 12-Jul-73 Cobo Hall Detroit 6:04 15-Jul-73 War Memorial Auditorium Buffalo 6:24 17-Jul-73 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 6:12 18-Jul-73 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 6:10 20-Jul-73 Boston Garden Boston 5:50 21-Jul-73 Civic Center Providence 5:37 23-Jul-73 Civic Center Baltimore 6:43 24-Jul-73 Three Rivers Stadium Pittsburgh 6:07 28-Jul-73 Madison Square Garden New York 6:06 29-Jul-73 Madison Square Garden New York 6:02 12-Jan-75 Vorst Nationaal Brussels 5:44 20-Jan-75 Chicago Stadium Chicago 6:17 24-Jan-75 Richfield Coliseum Richfield 6:22 25-Jan-75 Market Square Arena Indianapolis 6:56 29-Jan-75 The Coliseum Greensboro 6:16 31-Jan-75 Olympia Stadium Detroit 6:19 3-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 6:20 4-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 6:34 6-Feb-75 The Forum Montreal 7:09 7-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 6:18 8-Feb-75 The Spectrum Philadelphia 6:21 10-Feb-75 Capital Centre Landover 7:48 12-Feb-75 Madison Square Garden New York 7:48 13-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 7:24 14-Feb-75 Nassau County Coliseum Uniondale 8:11 16-Feb-75 St. Louis Arena St. Louis 6:33 28-Feb-75 Assembly Center Baton Rouge 6:38 4-Mar-75 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 6:47 5-Mar-75 Memorial Auditorium Dallas 7:20 10-Mar-75 Sports Arena San Diego 8:28 11-Mar-75 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 6:47 12-Mar-75 Long Beach Arena Long Beach 6:51 14-Mar-75 Sports Arena San Diego 7:16 17-Mar-75 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 8:13 19-Mar-75 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 7:22 20-Mar-75 Pacific Coliseum Vancouver 7:37 21-Mar-75 Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle 7:15 24-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 6:33 25-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 6:37 27-Mar-75 The Forum Inglewood 8:32 17-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 6:31 18-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:01 23-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:10 24-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:06 25-May-75 Earl's Court Arena London 7:04 10-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 5:53 13-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 6:27 14-Jun-77 Madison Square Garden New York 6:21 21-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 6:11 22-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 7:06 23-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 6:31 26-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 7:12 27-Jun-77 The Forum Inglewood 8:00 17-Jul-77 The Kingdome Seattle 7:34 23-Jul-77 Alameda County Coliseum Oakland 6:52 24-Jul-77 Alameda County Coliseum Oakland 5:21 23-Jul-79 Falkoner Teatret Copenhagen 6:13 24-Jul-79 Falkoner Teatret Copenhagen 5:51 4-Aug-79 Knebworth Park Stevenage 5:54 11-Aug-79 Knebworth Park Stevenage 5:30 This reply also includes jimmy page 66. W-O-W!!! Now thats what I call hard core LED ZEPPELIN LOYALTY!! ROCK ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzyEric Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Whats this "other site"? I was thinking to start a bootleg/ setlist database if one didnt exist so we could query anything like when they played song X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Garbage Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 may i add Vancouver 19th 75...your right about the 11th to. i hate the 77 versions though good pick I always looked at the 6/21/77 version to be a sister to the 3/19/75 one. the solos are pretty much the same. I do like the one from the 21st better though. but those two are my all time favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Garbage Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 almost all, give or take dates in 77 replaced by IMTOD They only played it 11 times in 77 (according to the tapes) but it seemed starting the third leg it had became a main stay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Blues Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'll take OTH from the 72 US tour over most anything after. Although Jimmy has some wicked guitar solos in a few 73 and 73 versions, the big hook for me with that song is the vocals. IMO, summer 72 tops all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC6880 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Its tough do you go for the great vocals of the 72 versions, the amazing solos of the 73 versions, or maybe the longer 75 versions? Tough call. The only 77 version I really like is from LTTE and thats mainly because Bonzo's drumming is so damn good. For me, its either the 6/25/72 version or possibly one from the German shows in 73 where Jimmy was just on fire and his guitar tone was great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppFanForever Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Its tough do you go for the great vocals of the 72 versions, the amazing solos of the 73 versions, or maybe the longer 75 versions? Tough call. The only 77 version I really like is from LTTE and thats mainly because Bonzo's drumming is so damn good. For me, its either the 6/25/72 version or possibly one from the German shows in 73 where Jimmy was just on fire and his guitar tone was great as well. WOW! I am really impressed with all of your answers. Makes me want to go and listen to all of them. ROCK ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOz Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 This question is for all of my fellow die hard hard core ZEPPELIN fanatics. In your opinion, where was the best live version of "Over The Hills And Far Away" performed at? HTWWW or any version before Plant's voice changed sometime in late '72/early '73. I am familiar with versions on TSRTS and a handful of recordings, including Earl's Court (75), Southampton (73) and Osaka (72 - bad recording, but I can tell Plant still has it on OTHAFA). Any version after the voice change is just crap. There's just no comparison between the searing, laser-sharp rendition offered up on HTWWW (and yes, I have read The Garden Tapes, so I'm aware of the "purity" issues regarding this song and that recording in general. That doesn't change my view) and the plodding, semi-spoken versions that come later. No Jimmy Page guitar solo would change this for me and I'm astonished that others feel differently. But then, that's what opinions are all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppFanForever Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 HTWWW or any version before Plant's voice changed sometime in late '72/early '73. I am familiar with versions on TSRTS and a handful of recordings, including Earl's Court (75), Southampton (73) and Osaka (72 - bad recording, but I can tell Plant still has it on OTHAFA). Any version after the voice change is just crap. There's just no comparison between the searing, laser-sharp rendition offered up on HTWWW (and yes, I have read The Garden Tapes, so I'm aware of the "purity" issues regarding this song and that recording in general. That doesn't change my view) and the plodding, semi-spoken versions that come later. No Jimmy Page guitar solo would change this for me and I'm astonished that others feel differently. But then, that's what opinions are all about. Thank you for your opinion, it does mean a lot to me. ROCK ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle87 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I like damn much HTWWW... And OTHAFA is very good... Stairway To Heaven... I love it, but I prefer the original version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I like the HTWWW version, but I love in the later years (around 1975) when Robert added the "Do it!" to the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppFanForever Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 I like the HTWWW version, but I love in the later years (around 1975) when Robert added the "Do it!" to the beginning. Hi "Roxie!" The HTWWW version seems to be the best version since Plant's voice was in rare form. ROCK ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgio Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 HTWWW or any version before Plant's voice changed sometime in late '72/early '73. I am familiar with versions on TSRTS and a handful of recordings, including Earl's Court (75), Southampton (73) and Osaka (72 - bad recording, but I can tell Plant still has it on OTHAFA). Any version after the voice change is just crap. There's just no comparison between the searing, laser-sharp rendition offered up on HTWWW (and yes, I have read The Garden Tapes, so I'm aware of the "purity" issues regarding this song and that recording in general. That doesn't change my view) and the plodding, semi-spoken versions that come later. No Jimmy Page guitar solo would change this for me and I'm astonished that others feel differently. But then, that's what opinions are all about. Wholeheartedly agree. The song without the vocal line isn't the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedNoodle Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 The one version I'm most familiar with is HTWWW. I've heard other versions, mainly through YouTube. I never did like bootlegs, of any band. I'm an audio nut, plus I have respect for the artists. I am one of about five people left that buys CD's and doesn't download, but when I do have to download, I pay for it. If they wanted me to hear those performances they wouldn't be bootlegged. I really wish sine douche hadn't stole all the crap from page. That said, I like HTWWW mainly because of the excellent sound quality of the recording. And I love a great guitar solo, but I tend to look at the overall arrangement and blend of the music, which would explain why I'm deeply in love with songs like Your Time Is Gonna Come and How Many More Times(i know that has a solo, but not a huge one) oh, here's one i found on YouTube. I have no clue where its from, bootleg or somethin? not near as good as HTWWW, mainly cuz of the vocals, but its not bad: and while on the topic of his fading vocals, here's one where his range is kinda still there in 75, although not being strained at all: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Wholeheartedly agree. The song without the vocal line isn't the same! The question is: why did he change the melody? He could have sung it in a lower octave if he wasn't able to hit the first high note to each vocal line ("many times" etc.) and kept the proper melody there. Instead, he decided to remove the 'hook' and basically ruin his own vocals to the song. You can't do that to a song as great as this, but....he did. Its actually quite easy to sing this melody, even I can do it, and I ain't no singer. To this day, I don't understand it. Still, I've always loved how Page Jones and Bonham went off during the solo, some of my favorite Zeppelin moments ever happened during these jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashmiran Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Personally, and I know I'll get backlash from this, I like the "Alternate" melody he does bettrer than the original. This melody has its own hooks. MSG '73, '75. 7.29.73 Rock On!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy page66 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 MSG '73, '75. 7.29.73 Rock On!!!! And Vancouver too right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashmiran Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 And Vancouver too right ? If you mean '75 then, definitely. Not a huge fan of the '73 versions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy page66 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 If you mean '75 then, definitely. Not a huge fan of the '73 versions though. yep "snow jobs" i agree about the 73 versions Hey where have you been all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashmiran Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I've been fixing my fried computer modem. Still not fixed though, I'm on my friend's computer currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I actually like the version on "How The West Won". "Snow Jobs" sounds great as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evster2012 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 The question is: why did he change the melody? He could have sung it in a lower octave if he wasn't able to hit the first high note to each vocal line ("many times" etc.) and kept the proper melody there. Instead, he decided to remove the 'hook' and basically ruin his own vocals to the song. You can't do that to a song as great as this, but....he did. Its actually quite easy to sing this melody, even I can do it, and I ain't no singer. To this day, I don't understand it. By the end of '72, Robert had developed nodes on his vocal chords (callouses essentially). While the touring schedule had eased with their success, he'd still torn up his instrument. The latter of 72 and the bulk of 73 saw him stuggling, hence the layoff in 74 when he had corrective surgery on his throat. The recovery from this and the re-learning how to use his voice is apparent in the Physical Graffiti sessions and the 75 tour. It really wasn't until the 77 tour that he'd regained command, albeit in a lower register, of his voice. Unfortunately Jimmy wasn't at the top of his game by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppFanForever Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 By the end of '72, Robert had developed nodes on his vocal chords (callouses essentially). While the touring schedule had eased with their success, he'd still torn up his instrument. The latter of 72 and the bulk of 73 saw him stuggling, hence the layoff in 74 when he had corrective surgery on his throat. The recovery from this and the re-learning how to use his voice is apparent in the Physical Graffiti sessions and the 75 tour. It really wasn't until the 77 tour that he'd regained command, albeit in a lower register, of his voice. Unfortunately Jimmy wasn't at the top of his game by that point. How's it going "Evster2012?" The results truly showed on "Over The Hills And Far Away," thats why Robert sang the song in a lower key than usual. Good answer Evster2012. ROCK ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowbell666 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 the issue i have with the later versions is not just that he sang lower, but that he changed the melody, and it just sounds bad. its actually hard for me to listen to those later performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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