Jump to content

Rock and Roll


kashmiran

Recommended Posts

What's the best live version out-there. Multiple answers welcome but try to narrow it down to one if you can. In my opinion, nothing beats the official TSRTS version (old or new, they're both great). Bootleg versions, I'd have to say 7.28.73.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Knebworth 4th. :)

TSRTS is pretty good but <_<

6-27-1972

Vienna 1973 :o

Knebworth 4th :notworthy:

This is my true favorite, but I didn't put this down because I've seen alot of harsh criticism of Knebworth, and I didn't want to get the stereotypical "Wait a minute, Knebworth is good, but..." I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Vienna 1973 is 3rd on my list after Knebworth and TSRTS.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Knebworth 4th :notworthy:

This is my true favorite, but I didn't put this down because I've seen alot of harsh criticism of Knebworth, and I didn't want to get the stereotypical "Wait a minute, Knebworth is good, but..." I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Vienna 1973 is 3rd on my list after Knebworth and TSRTS.

you got good taste :) For sure.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can name more shows where his voice broke up or he was off key than I can shows where he got it pretty well.

I don't judge a song off one performance, but I agree HTWWW was good... I think it has alot to do with it being one of the last songs of the night... I was just saying he sucked at opening with Rock & Roll... I don't know why.. maybe in the later years he needed a song or two at first to get warmed up?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think Robert used to absolutely nail Rock and Roll in 71/72 I haven't heard many bootlegs but I'm sure a bootleg expert can confirm. I love the one from Australia 1972, click - the footage is great and I wish there was more of it. It's true by 1973 his voice had lowered and he didn't bother to warm up so with Rock and Roll as the set opener he didn't sing it too good, although most the time he still managed to make it sound cool.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There's a California show from 1972 (either Long Beach or L.A) with a great version of Rock And Roll IMO. He nails this long note, and the crowd goes crazy. I believe right after the song is where he goes after a guy in the audience who's causing trouble. "Hey big man, big man...".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He needs more time to warm up in the later years. That's why many people don't like the versions after '72. Look at Knebworth. He nails it so well because he's fully warmed up. But many opener versions are awesome too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Listen to the studio version again, Docron's right. Nothing beats the studio track of "It's Been A Long Time," I mean "Rock and Roll." I've heard Bonzo play some hellafied drum outros but never heard Plant emote like he did at Headley Grange.

Baby, let my love come runnin' in . . .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Page & Plant in Rio I think it was - aired on MTV. Killer version. That's the one folks.

I enjoy the swagger of TSRTS, and I agree the Oz version is great (effortless)...the HTWWW versions seem to lack the weight of the studio version, but Jimmy's guitar was better live.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Listen to the studio version again, Docron's right. Nothing beats the studio track of "It's Been A Long Time," I mean "Rock and Roll." I've heard Bonzo play some hellafied drum outros but never heard Plant emote like he did at Headley Grange.

Baby, let my love come runnin' in . . .

Personally, I've never much liked the studio version of Rock n Roll, mainly because of the sound of the guitar. Its quite thin and Page's playing is much more mechanical than the way he approached it live, which was 'very loose'.

It just has so much more balls live that Plants shitty vocals have never really bothered me.

Favorite: TSRTS

Edited by snapper
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

Belfast 1971. Roberts vocals are ferocious. <--- B) #1

After 73 Robert's vocals were iffy, but there were definitely quite a few solid performances.

Tuscon 1972 ---> nice

Houston 1973 ---> nice

San Francisco 1973 ---> nice

Frankfurt 1980 ---> nice

Just a few :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Seattle 17-7-77....... Just kidding. :P

TSRTS is the best I've heard. Although in my opinion its a song that didnt really change that much, there wasn't much they could do with it.

Edited by tom kid
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Seattle 17-7-77....... Just kidding. :P

TSRTS is the best I've heard. Although in my opinion its a song that didnt really change that much, there wasn't much they could do with it.

It's a tune that definitely seemed to work better as an encore rather than an opener, IMO. Some of those '75 versions, Plant's voice is so shot it's goddamn painful to listen to!

Must be said, not a big fan of the song live. I prefer the coked up swagger of the studio take. YMMV of course...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's a tune that definitely seemed to work better as an encore rather than an opener, IMO. Some of those '75 versions, Plant's voice is so shot it's goddamn painful to listen to!

Agreed. While I do like the song as an opener, the 75 versions are pretty shotty to put it mildly. I do like the 77+ versions with the extended "Lonely lonely lonely" bit at the end. B)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
  • 1 month later...

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...