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[2520zosos]

Keep checking eBay - I've seen a couple pop up so far. Not for very cheap, though.

Yep, I've seen and bid on both of those two so far without success

Just thought that I would put a shout out on here in hope that I might find someone else willing to sell and maybe set something up using PayPal but outside of eBay which would make things more financially beneficial for both parties involved while keeping both parties covered if you know what I mean.

Edited by 2520zosos, 25 April 2012 - 03:50 AM.

[walter's walker]

I was just going to say the same thing.

I'd be very disappointed if I'd coughed up for this. Heard side one before, unimpressed then, no change 2nd time. Side 2 is only about 11mins long, the longest being a 3.30 reprise of the main theme.

Not exactly a 'must hear', then. Doubt I'll listen to it again.

Having coughed up twice for it (once on LP, once on CD) I'm rather choked to pick it up a third time, but I Will. I do have a direct-drive linear-tracking turntable, so I'll buy it when I see it at my local specialty shop, like I like for the Beach Boys "SMiLE." But I appreciate the Green Demon's sharers for giving me the opportunity to verify that it was what it was supposed to be.

"Lucifer Rising" strikes me the way that the LP "Brian Jones Presents The Master Musicians of Jojouka" strikes me-- like the music of the Night of Pan-- literally 'Pan-ic." It is not cacophony, like (say) Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music", it is more an aural sculpture, like the Beatles "Revolution No. 9", your reaction tells more about you than it does about the quality of the music. "No longer relevant material?" Mr. Page was at the very *height* of his creativity at the time that these pieces were written. If he releases an entire 3-LP set of outtakes of the never-recorded "Swan Song" (from the same period) I'll buy that too, and be able to hear the genius in it just as surely as I can hear it here.

Some of the faithful fans have been waiting almost 40 years to hear this. I'll listen to it again, and again, when I play it for my Zep-head friends so they can hear the upgrade to the sound, which is admirable. If you don't like it, I guess you just can't dig where Jimmy's head was at at the time-- lots of Moroccan and North Indian influences, which were still in his head 20 years later for "Unledded". But "Lucifer Rising" definitely counts among the more Avant-Guard pieces to come from a musician of Page's stature (Lennon's "Life With The Lions" would be another). It's not going to please everyone, but there's never a guarantee that you'll like every single thing your favorite artist ever puts out.

Edited by walter's walker, 25 April 2012 - 01:13 PM.

[walter's walker]

I was just going to say the same thing.

I'd be very disappointed if I'd coughed up for this. Heard side one before, unimpressed then, no change 2nd time. Side 2 is only about 11mins long, the longest being a 3.30 reprise of the main theme.

Not exactly a 'must hear', then. Doubt I'll listen to it again.

Having coughed up twice for it (once on LP, once on CD) I'm rather choked to pick it up a third time, but I Will. I do have a direct-drive linear-tracking turntable, so I'll buy it when I see it at my local specialty shop, like I like for the Beach Boys "SMiLE." But I appreciate the Green Demon's sharers for giving me the opportunity to verify that it was what it was supposed to be.

"Lucifer Rising" strikes me the way that the LP "Brian Jones Presents The Master Musicians of Jojouka" strikes me-- like the music of the Night of Pan-- literally 'Pan-ic." It is not cacophony, like (say) Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music", it is more an aural sculpture, like the Beatles "Revolution No. 9", your reaction tells more about you than it does about the quality of the music. "No longer relevant material?" Mr. Page was at the very *height* of his creativity at the time that these pieces were written. If he releases an entire 3-LP set of outtakes of the never-recorded "Swan Song" (from the same period) I'll buy that too, and be able to hear the genius in it just as surely as I can here it here.

Some of the faithful fans have been waiting almost 40 years to hear this. I'll listen to it again, and again, when I play it for my Zep-head friends so they can hear the upgrade to the sound, which is admirable. If you don't like it, I guess you just can't dig where Jimmy's head was at at the time-- lots of Moroccan and North Indian influences, which were still in his head 20 years later for "Unledded". But "Lucifer Rising" definitely counts among the more Avant-Guard pieces to come from a musician of Page's stature (Lennon's "Life With The Lions" would be another). It's not going to please everyone, but there's never a guarantee that you'll like every single thing your favorite artist ever puts out.

[nirvana]

Let me back-track a bit. I just watched "It might Get Loud" for the 12th time and I can't help but watch Jimmy play with Jack and Edge wide-eyed in awe.

This is the Genius at work, playing IMTOD like a Lucifer Risen! He was PALYING!!! And Jack and Edgy were spell-bound!
Ever since IMGL was released I was sure Jimmy was going to come out with new material and show all of us what his genius can do....
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I still wait - and wait - and wait. These re-re-re-releases like DW2 and LR just don't cut it. He can do much better, I KNOW he can.

But still we wait....until August 2012.

Edited by nirvana, 25 April 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[bamf4k]

I love Lucifer Rising. One of my favorite things Jimmy ever did solo. I wish I had mp3's of the new vinyl release. Also, when exactly was this recorded?

[Major Major]

'Avant garde', eh? Is that really what we want from our hero at this stage in the game?

I did the whole pseudo-intellectual avant garde bullshit trip in my teens. If I want avant garde, which I don't, I can go replay my Cabaret Voltaire collection, which has nestled undisturbed since around 1983.

As Angus once memorably said, you don't go to the butcher for brain surgery - or, in this case, I don't want my brain surgeon to perform butchery.

Meh.

[walter's walker]

'Avant garde', eh? Is that really what we want from our hero at this stage in the game?

We are not talking about *this* stage in the game. We are talking about the stage of the game 40 years ago where Jimmy was becoming very influenced by the music of the indigenous peoples of North Africa, the Middle East, and the Indian sub-continent. You (and most others people here) have probably heard the attempts he did with the orchestra of native musicians in Bombay in 1973 (if memory serves) to record a couple of numbers like "Friends." It seems to have been one of the most creative periods of his career, and "Lucifer Rising" gives us (or some of us, at least) more insight to his artistic vision during that period. Someone suggested that Led Zeppelin invented "World Music"... no, for the record, this sort of "World Music" as it is now called, it could be argued was almost single-handedly brought back to public attention by the Beats and hippies: Brion Gyson who hired the Master Musicians of Jajouka to play in his Morroccan resteraunt for several years 1954-1958, and a decade later, he took Rolling Stone Brian Jones to their village,, who made (amazing) field recordings of the Master Musicians of Jojouka, the former Royal Musicians to the King of Morrocco for over 1000 years. Mick Jagger caused these recordings to be released posthumously as the LP "Brian Jones Presents The Master Musicians Of JoJouka" in 1969; I'm sure Jimmy was familiar with it. Avant-Gard Dancer/Poet/Film Maker Maya Dern did some similarly amazing field recordings of tunes and songs of the Vodou Societies around the same time, what their drum beats were, their ritual dances, etc. (See her film "Divine Horsemen" if you can find it, otherwise read the book.) An LP of these recordings was released in 1954 on Elecktra Label and sells for $50-150 depending on condition, IF you can locate a copy for sale. (Don't trust Amazon 2nd-market sellers when purchasing used LPs). Again, given Jimmy's *ahem* esoteric interests, I'd be quite suprised if he was unaware of the record or film (I know he knows the film's former distributor personally).

Edited by walter's walker, 27 April 2012 - 02:48 PM.

[bluecongo]

I think you will like this. I did a remix of "Damask" from the soundtrack. I know this might get banned or deleted, but please don't delete the fans will dig it.

http://www.reverbnat...w/song_13054336

Edited by bluecongo, 27 April 2012 - 09:28 PM.

[reswati]

I think you will like this. I did a remix of "Damask" from the soundtrack. I know this might get banned or deleted, but please don't delete the fans will dig it.

http://www.reverbnat...w/song_13054336

Wow, this beams me back to the Punjab. Well done!

[PlanetPage]

Just very gently had a look at mine. The text on it is as follows:

The music presented here was recorded in my home studio in Plumpton, Sussex.
Experimenting with the theatre of the avant-garde, during the early seventies on eight-track,
one-inch analogue tape. I had been asked to provide some music for the soundtrack of
Lucifer Rising by Kenneth Anger. I had already been experimenting with some textures
I thought might work and went about doubling the length of a piece for the film.

The instruments and overdubs were treated at source with processing and sonic effects.
In some cases sub-mixes were employed.

The current mixes involved balancing the track levels with no additional effects for the
final mix. Two of these ideas were to surface on Death Wish II ten years later.

I'd been quite involved in what had gone on in art labs prior to Lucifer Rising. I had an
interest in underground everything. Art college was a hotbed of everything that was
alternative, whether it be poetry, music, film and certainly art. It's not well known but in
The Yardbirds we did a number called Glimpses, and Glimpses was something that involved
a bow. The bowed guitar wasn't a novelty to me; I really considered that it was making music.
The manifestation of that is in The Song Remains The Same with the bow and the whole
imagery of the hermit. Anyway, with Glimpses I was playing with tapes. I had all these
sound effects, like the Staten Island ferry, crunching noises and the rattling of a locomotive
with its lonesome horn. The juxtaposition of sound you could have taken out of the Fillmore East
and put into an art lab. The bow was used extensively on the music featured here.

When light beams were used with security alarms I had an idea of using tape recorders that
were triggered by the beams. You could have a dancer affecting the music, interrupting the
light beam. The musical combination was whatever the dancer would be inspired by; by the
ambience of the audience and their own imagination.

So the fact that I got involved with Kenneth Anger and Lucifer Rising was really just a step
along the road of my interest in the extreme and alternative.

Jimmy Page, March 2012

side one

1. LUCIFER RISING - MAIN TRACK

Whilst in India I had acquired a bass tanpura, that provides a majestic drone.

I applied a chant, tabla drums, bowed guitar, acoustic twelve string guitar,

mellotron and a newly acquired ARP synthesiser that provided the Horns of Jericho.

A mix of music was presented to Kenneth Anger and was used

on showings of the first third of the film but not in the final cut.

side two

1. INCUBUS

This suggests the icy scratches and cutting embrace of the incubus at play.

Instrument: Guitar

2. DAMASK

Inspired by my journeys both on foot and through the

recordings of the masters. A simple homage to the sarangi.

Instrument: Six String Bowed Guitar

3. UNHARMONICS

With the harmonics and demonstrative bowed glissandos the

naked solo guitar moves cautiously through a sonic landscape.

Instruments: Six String Bowed Guitar, Bowed Guitar

4. DAMASK - AMBIENT

Damask Mix II returns from the original recording

with a more dense, heavily perfumed ambience.

Instrument: Six String Bowed Guitar

5. LUCIFER RISING - PERCUSSIVE RETURN

The main title with a surprise visitor. I had forgotten about

a percussive overdub courtesy of the ARP Odyssey synthesiser.

Instruments: Phased Chants, ARP Synthesiser, Mellotron,

Twelve String Guitar, Tabla

Master Guitarist and few glimpses of his inspirations from his Journeys in India....The Instruments of The North, Tabla, Saringi...
Ustad Ahmed Jan Thirakwa, Master of Tabla - AIR Films Division DocumentaryCirca '71

Edited by PlanetPage, 29 April 2012 - 09:18 PM.

[Cookie0024]

I managed to get a digital version, so I can listen properly to my copy. Mixed bag

[Pb!]

This guy has been making a killing; it's interesting how the catchword 'reluctant' seems to double the price.

http://collectorsfre...id=230790847813