KellyGirl Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 A bit of silly speculation. When or what could be the next thing that could bring Jimmy Page + Robert Plant and John Paul Jones together in the same room at the same time in an American city? Yeah yeah sure they could be in London, but they wouldn't technically be ' together.' It's a taste of bittersweet reality to realize the 3 of them for a few hours last week were a unit coming together for Led Zeppelin - and that will probably be the last time. The trial is over. Nobody wants random clowns continuing to look for ways to sue the band just so they're brought together. (At least we hope not ) If they share the same space again, have it be for something positive and not for money grabbing court cases. In the mean time they will all go their separate ways and back to life apart from Led Zeppelin. Today's reality. Hey though, Jason has a birthday coming up where he said he wanted to invite the 3 of them. Is it wishful or naive to think the 4 of them would have an impromptu jam and WHOOPS somebody records it? I know, I know that chapter is closed already. Simmer down I'm having forum fun. My employer has been awesome the whole trial. Allowing me to be on this site along with twitter while at work. Bonus I even turned some of my clientele into Zep fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, KellyGirl said: A bit of silly speculation. When or what could be the next thing that could bring Jimmy Page + Robert Plant and John Paul Jones together in the same room at the same time in an American city? Yeah yeah sure they could be in London, but they wouldn't technically be ' together.' It's a taste of bittersweet reality to realize the 3 of them for a few hours last week were a unit coming together for Led Zeppelin - and that will probably be the last time. The trial is over. Nobody wants random clowns continuing to look for ways to sue the band just so they're brought together. (At least we hope not ) If they share the same space again, have it be for something positive and not for money grabbing court cases. In the mean time they will all go their separate ways and back to life apart from Led Zeppelin. Today's reality. Hey though, Jason has a birthday coming up where he said he wanted to invite the 3 of them. Is it wishful or naive to think the 4 of them would have an impromptu jam and WHOOPS somebody records it? I know, I know that chapter is closed already. Simmer down I'm having forum fun. My employer has been awesome the whole trial. Allowing me to be on this site along with twitter while at work. Bonus I even turned some of my clientele into Zep fans Nice work Kelly throughout the trial! Great detailed info and it was much appreciated by keeping us informed of the proceedings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I think talk of a counter suit, which admittedly I myself engaged in much earlier in this thread, is likely just people venting their frustration at Skidmore and Malofiy for dragging Zeppelin, and all their fans, through this ridiculous trial, and in the process further advancing this notion of Zeppelin as musical thieves. So yeah, on a purely emotional level, I'd love to see Zep counter sue and, legally-speaking, crush Skidmore under their boot. But a more reality-based perspective says just enjoy the victory and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDERZEP Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Very pleased with the outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Light Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ddladner said: Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! For the correct verdict. And the hug. That hug would have been awesome to see ! Big hugs to you too Kelly Girl for such good commentary, much appreciated. Peace and Love ya'll... Edited June 24, 2016 by Queen of Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Very good news indeed. I was rather pessimistic about the outcome, glad to have been proven wrong. (Still say Page et al. made this more difficult than it needed to be.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepscoda Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Jumping for joy!!!!! What a waste of their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddladner Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just turned on Pandora and STH is playing. Not surprised, it's probably the #1 played song today! I'm not complaining a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Check out Malifoy's post verdict remarks. Loser...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3656895/Led-Zeppelin-win-Stairway-Heaven-plagiarism-case.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, mack said: Check out Malifoy's post verdict remarks. Loser...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3656895/Led-Zeppelin-win-Stairway-Heaven-plagiarism-case.html No kidding. Like Skidmore and the Wolfe estate is really going to appeal. Even if they did appeal, I doubt they'd hire him as their lawyer again. They'd be total idiots if they did. The best is this line from Skidmore: Speaking outside court, Mr Skidmore said: "Money has triumphed over common sense." Seriously? He's got that exactly backwards. Common sense triumphed over money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyGirl Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Thank you so much SuperDave, Ddladner and Queen of Light. O m g Malofiy put a damn sock in it. He is nattering on about what he believes was a skewed trial towards Zep from the beginning. Stop it. Judge K. allowed unprejudiced and unbiased evidence to be part of the trial. It doesn't matter if the defendants have more money, and are represented by corporate bigwigs and suits. Peter and Helene weren't strolling up to the jury winking, flirting, bending over dropping their pens and handing out wads of cash if they voted in favour of Led Zeppelin. The 8 person jury heard the experts play all pieces both sides. They voted that the two were separate and the Judge told them chords can not be owned. Just as Hershey chocolate does not own cocoa beans, Budweiser does not own barley and Randy California does not own guitar notes or chords. I also want to touch on the jury stating Jimbert had access to hear Taurus doesn't technically mean the jury believes they indeed heard it. It just means they believe prior to writingStairway To Heaven there was very real chance they had opportunity to hear it - as did anyone else who was alive, owned a record player in the late 1960s and had functioning eardrums. Yes Jimbert could have skipped merrily along holding hands on route to a record store, bought the record, came home and listened to it an hour before they started writing Stairway, but still there is NO factual proof that happened - It only implies that there was realistic possibility. i.e. June 20th I had access to a car - Does that mean I drove it? Nope! All it means is I had access to it since it was in my garage and the keys were in my possession. I think it's a gray fuzzy area with the jury's statement when you think about it don't you? This is the big reason why they probably had to move on towards listening to the song. The proof of access was not 100% guarantee. "I don't recall" is such back door out when you're under oathe isn't it. Side note. My husband while away with his job said 'certain people' in connection with an M L B team were happy with the verdict. Zep have fans in all corners don't they. Edited June 24, 2016 by KellyGirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxtiphi Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Tea41 said: Nah, I think they are quite happy to move on at this point. Let's get Jimmy going on his solo album, that's what I'm really waiting for. Something tells me it's going to be special. I heard he's going to cover Spirits first album in its' entirety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 hours ago, zepscoda said: Jumping for joy!!!!! What a waste of their time That's Peter Frampton not Jimmy Page. Taken from the 1976 Day on the Green at Oakland the year before Zeppelin's gig. Anyway, I am a weary traveller but dead chuffed at the news. Thanks Walter for the alert. Finally an L.A. jury delivers a rational verdict...not always a given. Stop with the countersuit talk, people. It is ugly, mean-spirited, costly, counter-productive. My hearty thanks to Pamela, KellyGirl, Sam, Walter, Pagemeister, Queen of Light, Cookie0024, and anyone else providing up to the minute reports, posts, tweets, etc. Celebration Day indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozoso73 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 hours ago, Balthazor said: No kidding. Like Skidmore and the Wolfe estate is really going to appeal. Even if they did appeal, I doubt they'd hire him as their lawyer again. They'd be total idiots if they did. The best is this line from Skidmore: Speaking outside court, Mr Skidmore said: "Money has triumphed over common sense." Seriously? He's got that exactly backwards. Common sense triumphed over money. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurious Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, KellyGirl said: I also want to touch on the jury stating Jimbert had access to hear Taurus doesn't technically mean the jury believes they indeed heard it. It just means they believe prior to writingStairway To Heaven there was very real chance they had opportunity to hear it - as did anyone else who was alive, owned a record player in the late 1960s and had functioning eardrums. Nahh, they didn't believe him (LA Times reported that) yet still ruled that the music he wrote was untouchable. We all know he had access -- he owns five Spirit records and the "Fresh Garbage" connection sealed it. But these eight beautiful people on the jury decided that Jimmy Page's work was unique and wonderful and that no one in their right mind should have any claim on it. Music won yesterday, and one can only hope that the world will be better because of it. We cannot underestimate the importance of the precedence set yesterday with this decision. Amazing really, how much this means for all musicians moving forward. Edited June 24, 2016 by Mercurious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepscoda Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Strider said: That's Peter Frampton not Jimmy Page. Taken from the 1976 Day on the Green at Oakland the year before Zeppelin's gig. Anyway, I am a weary traveller but dead chuffed at the news. Thanks Walter for the alert. Finally an L.A. jury delivers a rational verdict...not always a given. Stop with the countersuit talk, people. It is ugly, mean-spirited, costly, counter-productive. My hearty thanks to Pamela, KellyGirl, Sam, Walter, Pagemeister, Queen of Light, Cookie0024, and anyone else providing up to the minute reports, posts, tweets, etc. Celebration Day indeed! OMG.... You're right....WTF was I smoking last night....lol....thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeplz71 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Annoying TMZ reporter follows Plant at LAX yesterday http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/23/robert-plant-lax-video-stairway-to-heaven-verdict/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpense Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 12 hours ago, Balthazor said: No kidding. Like Skidmore and the Wolfe estate is really going to appeal. Even if they did appeal, I doubt they'd hire him as their lawyer again. They'd be total idiots if they did. The best is this line from Skidmore: Speaking outside court, Mr Skidmore said: "Money has triumphed over common sense." Seriously? He's got that exactly backwards. Common sense triumphed over money. Their complaint was that the jury wasn't allowed to hear the actual recording. Interesting, since the jury asked to hear both tracks on guitar (prepared for the trial) and decided that they were not alike. Good luck with that appeal! Also, If you listen to the brief press conference by the sisters of Randy California, all they talked about was money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepDomi Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 23 minutes ago, sixpense said: Also, If you listen to the brief press conference by the sisters of Randy California, all they talked about was money. The sisters probably already had their cut of suit money spent. Too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfadeaway Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I was inside the courtroom for part of the trial. http://thelosangelesbeat.com/2016/06/lawyers-in-led-zeppelin-case-ramble-on-in-stairway-to-heaven-trial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfadeaway Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 My original story, with links to court docs: http://thelosangelesbeat.com/2016/05/led-zeppelin-in-court-again-in-los-angeles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 hours ago, sixpense said: Their complaint was that the jury wasn't allowed to hear the actual recording. Interesting, since the jury asked to hear both tracks on guitar (prepared for the trial) and decided that they were not alike. Good luck with that appeal! Also, If you listen to the brief press conference by the sisters of Randy California, all they talked about was money. Two sisters, attempting to rip the last pieces of flesh from the corpse of their dead brother to satisfy their greed, only to find the flesh putrid and decayed. Pathetic. These two should be ashamed of themselves. For me the Pepsi Challenge was the fact Randy California himself never brought suit, and, that the publishing and record companies themselves consulted a music expert in 2014 to discover merit, if any, existed. If the publishing company and record company, both with deep pockets, concludes there is no case, well then, there obviously is no case. I believe these sisters were hoping for emotion to carry their futile case ala OJ, that is using the name of a dead musician and a charity to win favor with the courts and jury. That is some seriously sick and twisted logic there. I feel sorry for Randy California as it must have been hell growing up with those two succubi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherNewMember Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 39 minutes ago, IpMan said: Two sisters, attempting to rip the last pieces of flesh from the corpse of their dead brother to satisfy their greed, only to find the flesh putrid and decayed. Pathetic. These two should be ashamed of themselves. For me the Pepsi Challenge was the fact Randy California himself never brought suit, and, that the publishing and record companies themselves consulted a music expert in 2014 to discover merit, if any, existed. If the publishing company and record company, both with deep pockets, concludes there is no case, well then, there obviously is no case. I believe these sisters were hoping for emotion to carry their futile case ala OJ, that is using the name of a dead musician and a charity to win favor with the courts and jury. That is some seriously sick and twisted logic there. I feel sorry for Randy California as it must have been hell growing up with those two succubi. They are giving the money away to charity and I you call them greedy?? That's what _I_ would call "some seriously sick and twisted logic".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 There were some serious questions early on regarding the legitimacy of the charity, which I believe is called the Randy California Project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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