The Rover Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 What do you consider outstanding live performances by Jimmy Page after 1980? The top of my list is the 2007 O2 concert. Was every song outstanding? No. But I particularly liked Kashmir, TU, and IMTOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'm not picky, it would be harder for me to pick non outstanding ones, he has not toured so much since Zeppelin's demise, so to me, anytime he has played has been an outstanding occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Seattle '86 is arguably the hottest night of The Firm era. Syracuse is arguably the hottest night of the 1988 tour. Any show in October 1995 is arguably the best of the 1995-96 tour. Any show in Oct/Nov 1998 is arguably the hottest night of the 1998 tour. The Los Angeles shows are arguably the best of the ZoCrowes era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, SteveAJones said: Seattle '86 is arguably the hottest night of The Firm era. Syracuse is arguably the hottest night of the 1988 tour. Any show in October 1995 is arguably the best of the 1995-96 tour. Any show in Oct/Nov 1998 is arguably the hottest night of the 1998 tour. The Los Angeles shows are arguably the best of the ZoCrowes era. What about the Cologne gig, August 98? Outstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Death Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 It shouldn't surprise me that none of the Coverdale/Page live shows were listed, but Jimmy was on fire on those dates. Any of the seven shows and you will catch Jimmy totally on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I was 8th row in Syracuse in 1988. It was 73 all over again he was incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepHead315 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 As SAJ mentioned above, pretty much any performance from the 1998 Page & Plant tour features Jimmy in prime form. I particularly dig this version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You from Paris 12/10/98. One of my all time favorite Page solos starts at 3:23: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 ^ Wow, simply WOW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 18 hours ago, ZepHead315 said: As SAJ mentioned above, pretty much any performance from the 1998 Page & Plant tour features Jimmy in prime form. I particularly dig this version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You from Paris 12/10/98. One of my all time favorite Page solos starts at 3:23: Yep, that was the last great tour with JP playing great. It’s hard to believe that was almost 20 years ago. I met JP/RP in May of 98. Great tour with Lili Hayden opening in the US, too. R😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I am slightly biased here as I was at this show. First time P&P had performed. It was very emotional and wonderful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) On October 23, 2017 at 9:00 AM, bluecongo said: I was 8th row in Syracuse in 1988. It was 73 all over again he was incredible. I wasn't there (jealous), but its obvious from the video of Syracuse that Page was in "the zone". I just stumbled upon one of the better shot and better sounding '88 tour boot videos I've ever heard. Haven't seen the whole thing yet but please go to 4:45 to hear an excellent performance of 'Prelude'. Goddamn! Just listened to the STH solo at 1:53:40. Its fucking greatness!!! Edited October 24, 2017 by blindwillie127 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Most of 88' and practically all of 98'. By 88' Jimmy had pretty much regained or even surpassed a bit his Zep technique, and on top of that he was still messing with the B-Bender often to brilliant effect. And who can forget after the bow solo Jimmy and Jason almost note for note recreating the second half of D&C, a lot like 73'. Most people thought , forget it, Jimmy not doing that again. And in New Orleans, 98' awesome overall, but HMMT is just out of this world. Page is practically shredding on the solos, and the bow solo sounds 100 times more evil than LR. Some people who blanket criticize this period(88', 95'-98'), have never probably fully listened to it. Sure, no JPJ, no Bonzo, but many of these shows stand on their own. The Firm, some fire, but Jimmy was still rehabbing his playing and still half wrecked.at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Hoek Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) I saw P & P at Great Woods in Massachusetts in 98' and they were amazing, so I guess this is my outstanding performance for Page post 1980. Page did the version of BIGLY with the solo as shown in the earlier post here and it was even more powerful to see it live. They also did a "real" version (not the rather miserable acoustic thing from No Quarter 1994) of No Quarter (or as real as it could be given the not-JPJ-and-Bonzo rhythm section) where Page's playing was just as fluid, jazzy, and technical as the version of No Quarter from the TSRTS film. ( Part 1 of 2-P & P Mansfield Ma. ) (No Quarter starts ~25 min). Page seemed like he was really in his element and was playing like was 1973 again. He has presented this way during other events where he is well practiced and not too F'd up to keep it on track; such as the O2, Roy Harper's Birthday event ( Page With Roy Harper "Same Old Rock", ) and the with the Black Crows. One other event that always stood out to me was the Montreux Jazz Festival 2001 where they did Elvis tunes and a cover of candy store rock ( BLPH 2001 P & P. ) Too bad they stopped playing together right after-I really felt the 50's stuff would have helped to them get back on track since it was their common interest back in the day. There of course have been other moments besides these and hopefully there will be even more! Edited October 24, 2017 by Darth Hoek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morningson Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Jimmy was pretty good with the Black Crowes. The extra guitar players freed him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) On 10/24/2017 at 11:17 AM, blindwillie127 said: I wasn't there (jealous), but its obvious from the video of Syracuse that Page was in "the zone". I just stumbled upon one of the better shot and better sounding '88 tour boot videos I've ever heard. Haven't seen the whole thing yet but please go to 4:45 to hear an excellent performance of 'Prelude'. Goddamn! Just listened to the STH solo at 1:53:40. Its fucking greatness!!! Thank God, it was Page fan filming this, or we'd get views of only the singer prancing around while Jimmy is jamming out, like some of the footage Massot provided us for TSRTS. Edited October 25, 2017 by The Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Rover said: Thank God, it was Page fan filming this, or we'd get views of only the singer prancing around while Jimmy is jamming out, like some of the footage Massot provided us for TSRTS. Most of those film directors back in the day had no idea how to film a concert. When the guitarists solos...show the damn FINGERS!!! Close up goddamnit!!! When the singer is belting it out...show the singer! And so on. You would think this would be common sense but either there was none among 2nd tier directors in the 70's, or they were just stoned. It seems the only thing one of the cameramen was focused on for most of the show was Robert's nob. Jesus Christ, we got it, Robert has a dick, now can we please move on to something else. FFS who was manning the camera that night...Paul Lynde? Edited October 26, 2017 by IpMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yeah, that's always bugged me out. Even on the main 75' EC film, the director/filmer doesn't at many points show what should be shown. I guess if you'd be stoned or wasted shooting, you might think "It's all good, just go easy on JPJ". Obviously if you watch video or DVD concerts( not boots, official releases) from the 80's on, the concerts are filmed usually with some reasonable logic. Like the Unledded release and Celebration Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, IpMan said: Most of those film directors back in the day had no idea how to film a concert. When the guitarists solos...show the damn FINGERS!!! Close up goddamnit!!! When the singer is belting it out...show the singer! And so on. You would think this would be common sense but either there was none among 2nd tier directors in the 70's, or they were just stoned. It seems the only thing one of the cameramen was focused on for most of the show was Robert's nob. Jesus Christ, we got it, Robert has a dick, now can we please move on to something else. Yes, let there be close ups of the crotch, belly button, nose hairs, and arses, to establish what's there. Then, just have a shot that gives the full stage showing all members, AND LET THE VIEWER DECIDE WHAT TO WATCH AND WHEN!!!! Every concert film should have that full stage shot as a camera angle option for the presentation!! Edited October 26, 2017 by The Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 This is how you film Jimmy Page! Go to 30:40 and and see Jimmy killing No Quarter up close and personal: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I must say that Rover has a brilliant idea. Most extensively shot shows of the last 20-25 yrs use enough cameras and angles that choice of camera/angles would likely be possible. There could be copyright problems, as fans could create their own show from this arrangement. Then again , the media company could just charge a bit more for this, and everyone's satisfied. As if the fan creating his own unique show would sell / charge for a download and deprive the media/rec company of $40,000. A great idea, although it may not survive the small print on a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Mithril46 said: I must say that Rover has a brilliant idea. Most extensively shot shows of the last 20-25 yrs use enough cameras and angles that choice of camera/angles would likely be possible. There could be copyright problems, as fans could create their own show from this arrangement. Then again , the media company could just charge a bit more for this, and everyone's satisfied. As if the fan creating his own unique show would sell / charge for a download and deprive the media/rec company of $40,000. A great idea, although it may not survive the small print on a contract. Yep, plus, we can get either Harvey Fierstein or Taylor Swift to man the "cock cam" for those so inclined. Extra charge of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I watched the 88 and 98 videos above. Prelude was great but I didn't care much for the rest af it too much. Staizrway in particular struck me as a good example of Page in need of a better drummer.to help him get a groove going i haven't seen a bad 98 P/P 98 show yet. I hadn't seen this one before but it reinforces the point that Page was on his most consistent roll for 25 years. The BIGLY solo was the highlight of the tour for me but pretty much everything was on it. It's a shame that at the time he was on such a playing high, he looked terrible. And for that reason I doubt we'll ever see an official DVD release id be happy with a P/P live best of. On vinyl, natch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 4:01 PM, Mithril46 said: Most of 88' and practically all of 98'. By 88' Jimmy had pretty much regained or even surpassed a bit his Zep technique, and on top of that he was still messing with the B-Bender often to brilliant effect. And who can forget after the bow solo Jimmy and Jason almost note for note recreating the second half of D&C, a lot like 73'. Most people thought , forget it, Jimmy not doing that again. And in New Orleans, 98' awesome overall, but HMMT is just out of this world. Page is practically shredding on the solos, and the bow solo sounds 100 times more evil than LR. Some people who blanket criticize this period(88', 95'-98'), have never probably fully listened to it. Sure, no JPJ, no Bonzo, but many of these shows stand on their own. The Firm, some fire, but Jimmy was still rehabbing his playing and still half wrecked.at least. The 88, 93, 98, and 02 Gig (considering it was 1 gig only and a broken finger) - and I agree on the Bender bit as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 This just kills me every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZed66 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 49 minutes ago, blindwillie127 said: This just kills me every time. Wow - that's an outstanding performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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