The Vaccine for Covid is coming fast

[slave to zep]

3 hours ago, cryingbluerain said:

We were right about the lab leak.
We were right about natural immunity.
We were right about masks.
We were right about lockdowns.
We were right about the vaccines.
We were right about boosters. 
We were right about them faking COVID numbers.
We were right about the deadly hospital protocol.
We were right about ivermectin.
We were right about evil Dr. Fauci.
We were right about the evil WHO.
We were right about it being a world power grab.
  
Guess who was wrong about everything? 

Yep 👉 the government sheep "Trust the Science" cult.

 

Yep!

[custard pie man]

7 hours ago, cryingbluerain said:

We were right about the lab leak.
We were right about natural immunity.
We were right about masks.
We were right about lockdowns.
We were right about the vaccines.
We were right about boosters. 
We were right about them faking COVID numbers.
We were right about the deadly hospital protocol.
We were right about ivermectin.
We were right about evil Dr. Fauci.
We were right about the evil WHO.
We were right about it being a world power grab.
  
Guess who was wrong about everything? 

Yep 👉 the government sheep "Trust the Science" cult.

 

kind of hard to argue these points for those  who believed it all and never questioned but the real question here is will anyone go to jail? will China ever get punished? millions were killed but my guess is nothing and I repeat nothing will happen to the Who organization, Faucci, cdc, etc... hope i'm wrong

[Stryder1978]

4 major mistakes the experts made about COVID despite saying they would 'follow the science'

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Aaron Kliegman

Tue, February 28, 2023 at 7:34 AM MST

 

"Follow the science" became the mantra of pundits, politicians, and major news outlets during the COVID pandemic, with countless prominent voices advising the American people to trust the guidance of scientists.

President Biden invoked the phrase repeatedly on the campaign trail in 2020 and throughout his presidency, saying his policies are based on the recommendations of public health experts.

However, key recommendations pushed by the country's health establishment and implemented by governments at the local, state, and federal levels were later contradicted by studies on the subjects.

Here are four major ideas about combating COVID that subsequent research has undermined:

A researcher works in a lab in Wuhan in central China, Hubei province, Oct. 12, 2021.

 

The so-called "lab leak theory," according to which COVID came from an accidental lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, was widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory and "misinformation" by Democrats, major news outlets, scientists, and social media companies in the early stages of the pandemic.

However, the Energy Department, which had been undecided on the origin of the pandemic, has now joined the FBI in concluding the coronavirus likely spread due to a mishap at a Chinese laboratory.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the shift in the Energy Department's stance was noted in a classified 2021 intelligence report that was updated by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines's office.

FACE MASKS MADE ‘LITTLE TO NO DIFFERENCE’ IN PREVENTING SPREAD OF COVID, SCIENTIFIC REVIEW FINDS

Masks are essential to protect yourself and others

In April 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) called on all Americans, even children as young as two years old, to wear masks to protect themselves and others from COVID. That September, then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said during a Senate hearing that "face masks are the most important powerful health tool we have." Dozens of states eventually enacted mask mandates.

Even last August, Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it's "inexplicable" that some  Americans view mandatory mask-wearing as violation of their liberty.

According to a new study, however, it was all for naught. Published by the prestigious Cochrane Library, which is funded by the National Institutes of Health, the review dug into the findings of 78 randomized controlled trials to determine whether "physical interventions" — including face masks and hand-washing — lessened the spread of respiratory viruses.

The conclusion about masks: "There is just no evidence that they make any difference. Full stop," Tom Jefferson, the study’s lead author, said in an interview. When asked specifically about fitted N95 masks in health care settings, Jefferson added, "It makes no difference — none of it."

LEARNING LOSS FROM COVID LOCKDOWNS CAUSED 'UNMITIGATED DISASTER' PARTICULARLY IN STUDENT BEHAVIOR: EXPERTS

Lockdowns are necessary

The World Health Organization (WHO) advocated the use of lockdowns, first imposed by China, to stop the spread of COVID, and countries began implementing such measures over the course of 2020. Some still have lockdown measures in place today.

Several U.S. states imposed their own lockdowns, particularly blue states run by Democrats. Florida, Texas, and other Republican-led states received criticism from Biden, Fauci, and many media outlets for relaxing lockdown measures far earlier than place such as New York and California.

A study from Johns Hopkins University last year stated that lockdowns "imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted" before concluding, "Lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."

Several studies have also found that closing schools due to COVID to protect kids, who were significantly less likely to die from the disease than adults, caused severe learning loss among students.

GEORGE MASON STUDY FINDS 'NO EVIDENCE' THAT VACCINE MANDATES IN MAJOR CITIES REDUCED COVID-19 CASES

Vaccines will stop the spread of the virus

When COVID vaccines were first made available, they were billed by the media and public health professionals as mechanisms to limit transmission of the virus and ultimately end the pandemic. Assertions questioning the efficacy of the vaccine were deemed "misinformation" by Big Tech companies and the Biden administration, which categorized many such assertions as "conspiracy theories."

However, a new study from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University concluded that COVID vaccine mandates in nine major cities didn't appear to make a difference in terms of curbing cases deaths from the pandemic.

The study came after last year, a director of the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer admitted at a hearing before the European Parliament that, at the time of its introduction, the COVID vaccine had never been tested for stopping transmission of the virus, according to a video of the exchange posted by parliamentarian Rob Roos.

A CDC advisory group said Friday it isn't recommending more than one annual coronavirus vaccine booster.

[slave to zep]

5 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

4 major mistakes the experts made about COVID despite saying they would 'follow the science'

Scroll back up to restore default view.

Aaron Kliegman

Tue, February 28, 2023 at 7:34 AM MST

 

"Follow the science" became the mantra of pundits, politicians, and major news outlets during the COVID pandemic, with countless prominent voices advising the American people to trust the guidance of scientists.

President Biden invoked the phrase repeatedly on the campaign trail in 2020 and throughout his presidency, saying his policies are based on the recommendations of public health experts.

However, key recommendations pushed by the country's health establishment and implemented by governments at the local, state, and federal levels were later contradicted by studies on the subjects.

Here are four major ideas about combating COVID that subsequent research has undermined:

 

A researcher works in a lab in Wuhan in central China, Hubei province, Oct. 12, 2021.

 

The so-called "lab leak theory," according to which COVID came from an accidental lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, was widely dismissed as a conspiracy theory and "misinformation" by Democrats, major news outlets, scientists, and social media companies in the early stages of the pandemic.

However, the Energy Department, which had been undecided on the origin of the pandemic, has now joined the FBI in concluding the coronavirus likely spread due to a mishap at a Chinese laboratory.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the shift in the Energy Department's stance was noted in a classified 2021 intelligence report that was updated by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines's office.

FACE MASKS MADE ‘LITTLE TO NO DIFFERENCE’ IN PREVENTING SPREAD OF COVID, SCIENTIFIC REVIEW FINDS

Masks are essential to protect yourself and others

In April 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) called on all Americans, even children as young as two years old, to wear masks to protect themselves and others from COVID. That September, then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said during a Senate hearing that "face masks are the most important powerful health tool we have." Dozens of states eventually enacted mask mandates.

Even last August, Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it's "inexplicable" that some  Americans view mandatory mask-wearing as violation of their liberty.

According to a new study, however, it was all for naught. Published by the prestigious Cochrane Library, which is funded by the National Institutes of Health, the review dug into the findings of 78 randomized controlled trials to determine whether "physical interventions" — including face masks and hand-washing — lessened the spread of respiratory viruses.

The conclusion about masks: "There is just no evidence that they make any difference. Full stop," Tom Jefferson, the study’s lead author, said in an interview. When asked specifically about fitted N95 masks in health care settings, Jefferson added, "It makes no difference — none of it."

LEARNING LOSS FROM COVID LOCKDOWNS CAUSED 'UNMITIGATED DISASTER' PARTICULARLY IN STUDENT BEHAVIOR: EXPERTS

Lockdowns are necessary

The World Health Organization (WHO) advocated the use of lockdowns, first imposed by China, to stop the spread of COVID, and countries began implementing such measures over the course of 2020. Some still have lockdown measures in place today.

Several U.S. states imposed their own lockdowns, particularly blue states run by Democrats. Florida, Texas, and other Republican-led states received criticism from Biden, Fauci, and many media outlets for relaxing lockdown measures far earlier than place such as New York and California.

A study from Johns Hopkins University last year stated that lockdowns "imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted" before concluding, "Lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."

Several studies have also found that closing schools due to COVID to protect kids, who were significantly less likely to die from the disease than adults, caused severe learning loss among students.

GEORGE MASON STUDY FINDS 'NO EVIDENCE' THAT VACCINE MANDATES IN MAJOR CITIES REDUCED COVID-19 CASES

Vaccines will stop the spread of the virus

When COVID vaccines were first made available, they were billed by the media and public health professionals as mechanisms to limit transmission of the virus and ultimately end the pandemic. Assertions questioning the efficacy of the vaccine were deemed "misinformation" by Big Tech companies and the Biden administration, which categorized many such assertions as "conspiracy theories."

However, a new study from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University concluded that COVID vaccine mandates in nine major cities didn't appear to make a difference in terms of curbing cases deaths from the pandemic.

The study came after last year, a director of the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer admitted at a hearing before the European Parliament that, at the time of its introduction, the COVID vaccine had never been tested for stopping transmission of the virus, according to a video of the exchange posted by parliamentarian Rob Roos.

A CDC advisory group said Friday it isn't recommending more than one annual coronavirus vaccine booster.

100% ✔

[JohnOsbourne]

[LedZeppfan1977]

On 3/3/2023 at 10:55 PM, JohnOsbourne said:

What are we talking about?  A vaccine? For a minute there I thought you meant the year 1291.  LOL.  I think that was part of the middle ages, or dark ages.  Before the Renaissance.  

Edited March 9, 2023 by LedZeppfan1977

[Stryder1978]

No one believed the Covid Wuhan lab leak theory – then the world changed its tune

Sarah Knapton

Wed, March 8, 2023 at 1:49 PM MST

In this article:

 

When Covid-19 first emerged in Wuhan in December 2019, many pointed out that the outbreak was close to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

Of all the cities in the world, a deadly coronavirus had popped up just eight miles from laboratories where scientists were importing and tinkering with deadly bat coronaviruses.

Even Wuhan scientists themselves were concerned. Dr Shi Zhengli, WIV virologist, told Scientific American that she remembered thinking if coronaviruses were behind the outbreak “could they have come from our lab?”

It should not have been so controversial. Laboratory leaks are fairly common, with smallpox, swine flu, anthrax, and foot and mouth disease all known to have escaped from facilities in recent decades.

- ADVERTISEMENT -

In 2004, the Sars virus leaked from a high-containment research laboratory in Beijing at least three times, causing local outbreaks - so such a scenario was far from unprecedented.

Behind the scenes, international scientists were also worried. The virus had come out of nowhere, seemingly pre-adapted to infect humans, and no intermediary host could be found.

An email from Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, in February 2020 said that “a likely explanation” was that Covid had rapidly evolved from a Sars-like virus inside human tissue in a low-security laboratory.

The email, to Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins, of the US National Institutes of Health, said that such evolution may have “accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans”.

Sir Jeremy warned that research in Wuhan was like the “Wild West”, with experiments carried out at worrying biosecurity levels.

But Dr Collins, the former director of the US National Institutes of Health, argued that further debate on the subject could damage “international harmony”. The comment would come to typify why it has been so difficult to get to the bottom of the origins of Covid.

As Matt Hancock’s original biography drafts show, the world was terrified of upsetting China.

Over the next few months, scientists did what they could to steer investigations away from a laboratory leak, pushing journals to publish letters and papers that dismissed concerns as “conspiracy theories”.

Only in the US was the possibility being seriously considered, where Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, argued there was “enormous evidence” that the virus had leaked from Wuhan.

In May 2020, US intelligence discovered there had been an emergency shutdown at WIV in October 2019, coupled with a suspicious fall in mobile phone activity.

But the political gulf between the Trump administration and most scientists led to the allegations being disparaged as anti-Chinese racism.

When an investigation by the World Health Organisation concluded that the virus had most likely jumped from animals to humans in a zoonotic spillover event, the case seemed closed.

In fact, it was not until Mr Trump left office in January 2021 that the tide began to turn and slowly scientists put their heads above the parapet.

In a letter to the journal Science in May 2021, 18 of the world’s top epidemiologists and geneticists from institutions including Cambridge, Harvard and Stanford universities called for an independent inquiry into the origins of the pandemic.

By that time, a collective of virologists and hackers had also found evidence showing that Wuhan scientists had been tweaking bat coronaviruses to make them more deadly - and doing so with funding from the US government.

In 2010, WIV embarked on “gain of function experiments” to increase the infectiousness of Sars coronavirus in humans. By 2015, Wuhan scientists had created a highly infectious chimeric virus that targeted the human upper respiratory tract.

In 2018 and 2019, grants from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in the US showed that Dr Zhengli had applied to work on “virus infection experiments in humanised mice” using Sars coronaviruses - to find out what changes could lead to a spillover event into humans.

As Harvard scientist Alina Chan told MPs at the House of Commons science and technology select committee: “You find these scientists who said in early 2018: ‘I’m going to put horns on horses,’ and at the end of 2019 a unicorn turns up in Wuhan city.”

Freedom of Information requests also revealed that under the US-China Predict project, Wuhan researchers collected bat coronaviruses from China and south-east Asia. These were sent to various laboratories hundreds of miles away for “sequencing”, “archiving”, “analysis” and “manipulation”.

WIV had collected more than 220 Sars-related coronaviruses, at least 100 of which were never made public. Members of staff were also photographed wearing inadequate levels of personal protective equipment while handing bats.

But to date, Beijing has failed to disclose much of the work that was happening and removed a database of viral sequences shortly before the pandemic erupted.

Bombshell admission

By the summer of 2021, US intelligence had also discovered that three researchers at WIV had sought treatment at a hospital after falling ill in November 2019 - weeks before China told the world about Covid.

Then in August 2021, the head of the WHO’s pandemic origins investigation made the bombshell admission that he had been pressured into ruling out a laboratory leak to avoid arguments with China.

Dr Peter Embarek said it was actually a “likely hypothesis” that a laboratory employee could have picked up the virus while working in the field and brought it back to Wuhan.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the WHO, was forced to admit that a laboratory leak had been ruled out prematurely and set up a new inquiry to examine the origins of the pandemic.

More than 18 months on, that inquiry has gone nowhere, with members complaining they have been stonewalled by China. In response, Beijing claims the inquiries are politically motivated and has even suggested the pandemic may have begun in the US.

Last October, a US Senate committee concluded that the Covid-19 pandemic was “more likely than not” the result of a laboratory accident and told China it would need to prove otherwise.

And last week Christopher Wray, director of the FBI, said that the bureau believes Covid-19 most likely originated in a Chinese laboratory. A US energy department report released in February also came to the same conclusion.

A US House of Representatives sub-committee hearing on the pandemic origins opened on Wednesday in the latest attempt to get to the truth.

Yet China continues to dig in its heels and, without access to its laboratories and records, investigations are now at an impasse.

Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6, believes that if any evidence existed, it has likely now been destroyed.

The political will to probe deeper also seems lacking outside of the GOP. If the Cabinet Office notes are to be believed, the British Government appears to view links to the Wuhan laboratory as entirely coincidental.

But with each passing day, a laboratory leak becomes more plausible. When scientists hunted for the source of the original Sars, a small team found it within six months.

It is now more than three years since the start of the pandemic and, despite an unprecedented search, no animal host for Covid-19 has ever been found. Perhaps because it never existed in the wild.

 

[hummingbird69]

Anyone and everyone who was fired or censored over this should be reinstated immediately and have public apologies made to them.

[slave to zep]

4 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

No one believed the Covid Wuhan lab leak theory – then the world changed its tune

Sarah Knapton

Wed, March 8, 2023 at 1:49 PM MST

In this article:

 

When Covid-19 first emerged in Wuhan in December 2019, many pointed out that the outbreak was close to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

Of all the cities in the world, a deadly coronavirus had popped up just eight miles from laboratories where scientists were importing and tinkering with deadly bat coronaviruses.

Even Wuhan scientists themselves were concerned. Dr Shi Zhengli, WIV virologist, told Scientific American that she remembered thinking if coronaviruses were behind the outbreak “could they have come from our lab?”

It should not have been so controversial. Laboratory leaks are fairly common, with smallpox, swine flu, anthrax, and foot and mouth disease all known to have escaped from facilities in recent decades.

- ADVERTISEMENT -

In 2004, the Sars virus leaked from a high-containment research laboratory in Beijing at least three times, causing local outbreaks - so such a scenario was far from unprecedented.

Behind the scenes, international scientists were also worried. The virus had come out of nowhere, seemingly pre-adapted to infect humans, and no intermediary host could be found.

An email from Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, in February 2020 said that “a likely explanation” was that Covid had rapidly evolved from a Sars-like virus inside human tissue in a low-security laboratory.

The email, to Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins, of the US National Institutes of Health, said that such evolution may have “accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans”.

Sir Jeremy warned that research in Wuhan was like the “Wild West”, with experiments carried out at worrying biosecurity levels.

But Dr Collins, the former director of the US National Institutes of Health, argued that further debate on the subject could damage “international harmony”. The comment would come to typify why it has been so difficult to get to the bottom of the origins of Covid.

As Matt Hancock’s original biography drafts show, the world was terrified of upsetting China.

Over the next few months, scientists did what they could to steer investigations away from a laboratory leak, pushing journals to publish letters and papers that dismissed concerns as “conspiracy theories”.

Only in the US was the possibility being seriously considered, where Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, argued there was “enormous evidence” that the virus had leaked from Wuhan.

In May 2020, US intelligence discovered there had been an emergency shutdown at WIV in October 2019, coupled with a suspicious fall in mobile phone activity.

But the political gulf between the Trump administration and most scientists led to the allegations being disparaged as anti-Chinese racism.

When an investigation by the World Health Organisation concluded that the virus had most likely jumped from animals to humans in a zoonotic spillover event, the case seemed closed.

In fact, it was not until Mr Trump left office in January 2021 that the tide began to turn and slowly scientists put their heads above the parapet.

In a letter to the journal Science in May 2021, 18 of the world’s top epidemiologists and geneticists from institutions including Cambridge, Harvard and Stanford universities called for an independent inquiry into the origins of the pandemic.

By that time, a collective of virologists and hackers had also found evidence showing that Wuhan scientists had been tweaking bat coronaviruses to make them more deadly - and doing so with funding from the US government.

In 2010, WIV embarked on “gain of function experiments” to increase the infectiousness of Sars coronavirus in humans. By 2015, Wuhan scientists had created a highly infectious chimeric virus that targeted the human upper respiratory tract.

In 2018 and 2019, grants from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in the US showed that Dr Zhengli had applied to work on “virus infection experiments in humanised mice” using Sars coronaviruses - to find out what changes could lead to a spillover event into humans.

As Harvard scientist Alina Chan told MPs at the House of Commons science and technology select committee: “You find these scientists who said in early 2018: ‘I’m going to put horns on horses,’ and at the end of 2019 a unicorn turns up in Wuhan city.”

Freedom of Information requests also revealed that under the US-China Predict project, Wuhan researchers collected bat coronaviruses from China and south-east Asia. These were sent to various laboratories hundreds of miles away for “sequencing”, “archiving”, “analysis” and “manipulation”.

WIV had collected more than 220 Sars-related coronaviruses, at least 100 of which were never made public. Members of staff were also photographed wearing inadequate levels of personal protective equipment while handing bats.

But to date, Beijing has failed to disclose much of the work that was happening and removed a database of viral sequences shortly before the pandemic erupted.

Bombshell admission

By the summer of 2021, US intelligence had also discovered that three researchers at WIV had sought treatment at a hospital after falling ill in November 2019 - weeks before China told the world about Covid.

Then in August 2021, the head of the WHO’s pandemic origins investigation made the bombshell admission that he had been pressured into ruling out a laboratory leak to avoid arguments with China.

Dr Peter Embarek said it was actually a “likely hypothesis” that a laboratory employee could have picked up the virus while working in the field and brought it back to Wuhan.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the WHO, was forced to admit that a laboratory leak had been ruled out prematurely and set up a new inquiry to examine the origins of the pandemic.

More than 18 months on, that inquiry has gone nowhere, with members complaining they have been stonewalled by China. In response, Beijing claims the inquiries are politically motivated and has even suggested the pandemic may have begun in the US.

Last October, a US Senate committee concluded that the Covid-19 pandemic was “more likely than not” the result of a laboratory accident and told China it would need to prove otherwise.

And last week Christopher Wray, director of the FBI, said that the bureau believes Covid-19 most likely originated in a Chinese laboratory. A US energy department report released in February also came to the same conclusion.

A US House of Representatives sub-committee hearing on the pandemic origins opened on Wednesday in the latest attempt to get to the truth.

Yet China continues to dig in its heels and, without access to its laboratories and records, investigations are now at an impasse.

Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6, believes that if any evidence existed, it has likely now been destroyed.

The political will to probe deeper also seems lacking outside of the GOP. If the Cabinet Office notes are to be believed, the British Government appears to view links to the Wuhan laboratory as entirely coincidental.

But with each passing day, a laboratory leak becomes more plausible. When scientists hunted for the source of the original Sars, a small team found it within six months.

It is now more than three years since the start of the pandemic and, despite an unprecedented search, no animal host for Covid-19 has ever been found. Perhaps because it never existed in the wild.

 

But hey, what would us crazy conspiracy theorists know?

[slave to zep]

1 hour ago, hummingbird69 said:

Anyone and everyone who was fired or censored over this should be reinstated immediately and have public apologies made to them.

The company I work for mandated the vaccine.

I refused and was going to be fired, after 18 years service, but I got a medical exemption. 

A few months ago they dropped the mandate.

No apologies to anyone.

 

[hummingbird69]

38 minutes ago, slave to zep said:

But hey, what would us crazy conspiracy theorists know?

The Left,  We lied about a lot of shit regarding the trump admin and the corona virus in order to bring him down and gain control over the population. We also influenced the Presidential election and the sub elections of many people by burying terrible news stories that would hurt our side by having the news media and social media keep that information from you but,

The Election was totally Above board! you gotta believe us!!!

Edited March 9, 2023 by hummingbird69

[Plant77]

On 3/9/2023 at 11:21 AM, hummingbird69 said:

The Left,  We lied about a lot of shit regarding the trump admin and the corona virus in order to bring him down and gain control over the population. We also influenced the Presidential election and the sub elections of many people by burying terrible news stories that would hurt our side by having the news media and social media keep that information from you but,

The Election was totally Above board! you gotta believe us!!!

I remember all the bullshit that Trump did. Here are a few reminders.

 

https://doggett.house.gov/media/blog-post/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-responses

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736

 

it’s as if people have amnesia. I can post on this all day. This didn’t start under the current administration. I’m not saying they are doing a great job with it. But we have audio recordings of Trump explaining how dangerous it was and that he didn’t want to rattle the public. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Praising the Chinese government and President repeatedly. Masks, shutdowns, and the Vax that we have so many people posting on. He did say many times this was his vax and it wouldn’t have been rolled out without him. Sleepy Joe didn’t fast track this vax. Facts. 

[Plant77]

On 3/9/2023 at 11:21 AM, hummingbird69 said:

The Left,  We lied about a lot of shit regarding the trump admin and the corona virus in order to bring him down and gain control over the population. We also influenced the Presidential election and the sub elections of many people by burying terrible news stories that would hurt our side by having the news media and social media keep that information from you but,

The Election was totally Above board! you gotta believe us!!!

Right. It was. According to over 60 cases with TFG appointed judges, all of the US security agencies, and most importantly his hand picked Attorney General. But you may be right, I suppose all of the world was planning on his exit and colluded against him with every country, and most importantly all of his hand picked judges and advisors. Every single one of them testified that it was utter bullshit. But you keep believing the Kraken and that fucking nut job Rudy G and that train wreck Flynn and the absolute embarrassment Sydney Powell.

 

Whats insanely funny is the amount of people who believe this are on the absolute fringe of society. I want some evidence. And not from that total fraud who produced the laughable 10,000 Mules. Which all of that has been resoundingly proved as false and utter crap. But bless your heart for still drumming to that beat. What’s also hilarious, Trump admitted and told all of his advisers how embarrassed he was about getting beat. But keep screaming illegal election. It is curious after he lost against Ted Cruz in the Iowa Caucuses he screamed fraud, he screamed fraud before he won the electoral college vote but lost the popular by 3 plus million, and before the election he screamed fraud. I get it, if a Maga loses, fraud, if they win on down ballots totally okay. Or if they win. That makes sense. 

[SteveAJones]

1 hour ago, Plant77 said:

Whats insanely funny is the amount of people who believe this are on the absolute fringe of society. I want some evidence. 

You have no need for evidence with regard to January 6th, so really, you do? Well, here it is. The election was stolen in plain sight.

Media suppression of the news is primarily how they stole it and will continue to steal elections in the future. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by SteveAJones

[LedZeppfan1977]

If any election was stolen it was the one Hillary should have won and the one Bush stole from Gore.  Trump LOST.   So we must get back to science about this vaccine OR ELSE.    The powers that be will put a fast end to this topic.  You know that is the truth.  

[chillumpuffer]

Does Covid still exist?

[Walter]

3 minutes ago, chillumpuffer said:

Does Covid still exist?

My buddy just went to Miami and got it. He was good after 3 days. 

[Walter]

2 hours ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

If any election was stolen it was the one Hillary should have won and the one Bush stole from Gore.  Trump LOST.   So we must get back to science about this vaccine OR ELSE.    The powers that be will put a fast end to this topic.  You know that is the truth.  

Any sane person knows it’s the truth. Persistent distortions of reality don’t change the truth. 

[hummingbird69]

2 hours ago, Walter said:

Any sane person knows it’s the truth. Persistent distortions of reality don’t change the truth. 

It's really too bad that you cannot see how it has been the left creating all the distortions you speak of.

I guess if you voted for the party of people who say that men can in fact become pregnant then I guess you can believe anything they want you too.

[jabe]

19 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

You have no need for evidence with regard to January 6th, so really, you do? Well, here it is. The election was stolen in plain sight.

Media suppression of the news is primarily how they stole it and will continue to steal elections in the future. 

Speaking of Hunter, where the hell is he?
Is he hermitizing in his old man's basement?
Is he still (ahem) negotiating million dollar oversea deals because of his stellar business acumen?
Does he make time to devour two or three 8 balls a week?
Is he banging his sister-in-law or sticking to (in) prostitutes?

Hunter has pulled a disappearing act and the press as far as I can tell don't give a shit.
Hunter, I need to know all is copasetic in your universe.
Make the talk show circuit, help your old man onto the plane... show yourself.

[Plant77]

3 hours ago, jabe said:

Speaking of Hunter, where the hell is he?
Is he hermitizing in his old man's basement?
Is he still (ahem) negotiating million dollar oversea deals because of his stellar business acumen?
Does he make time to devour two or three 8 balls a week?
Is he banging his sister-in-law or sticking to (in) prostitutes?

Hunter has pulled a disappearing act and the press as far as I can tell don't give a shit.
Hunter, I need to know all is copasetic in your universe.
Make the talk show circuit, help your old man onto the plane... show yourself.

Where is Jared C? Is he still making 2B dollar deals with the Prince of Saudi? Is his wife Ivanka still getting all of her patents and deals done with China? It is ridiculous and funny to think of the right pointing the finger at Hunter when the TFG’s family is insanely ensconced with the worst human rights violators on the planet. But none of you raise an eyebrow about those dealings that happened while he was in office and immediately after he left office. Get the hell out of here. DrUmP and his family are the worst of our country. He is such a scammer and scumbag who couldn’t stand that he lost the election he cried, screamed, went to McDonald’s and threw his pickles all over the white house. Anyone still defending this creep after the court case with Dominion and anyone who has the ability to look at the transcripts of what Tucker, Sean H, Laura I all admitting that they 100% knew his grand lie and continued to put it out there on there telecast. However, under oath every single one of them have testified that they knew it was bullshit and there are emails, texts, and transcripts of them saying exactly that. Also including saying that the shit stain Rudy G was a disaster and not to allow him on their programs anymore. Anyone who believes the election was stole is just a pathetic puppet. NOTHING WAS STOLEN EXCEPT THE SUPREME COURT. We will see what that does to the country. 

[SteveAJones]

1 hour ago, Plant77 said:

NOTHING WAS STOLEN EXCEPT THE SUPREME COURT. 

If you say so. If anything, Justice Roberts has turned out to be a turn coat son of a bitch and I don't mean that in the context of partisanship, I mean that in the context of upholding the Constitution of the United States.

[hummingbird69]

7 hours ago, Plant77 said:

Where is Jared C? Is he still making 2B dollar deals with the Prince of Saudi? Is his wife Ivanka still getting all of her patents and deals done with China? It is ridiculous and funny to think of the right pointing the finger at Hunter when the TFG’s family is insanely ensconced with the worst human rights violators on the planet. But none of you raise an eyebrow about those dealings that happened while he was in office and immediately after he left office. Get the hell out of here. DrUmP and his family are the worst of our country. He is such a scammer and scumbag who couldn’t stand that he lost the election he cried, screamed, went to McDonald’s and threw his pickles all over the white house. Anyone still defending this creep after the court case with Dominion and anyone who has the ability to look at the transcripts of what Tucker, Sean H, Laura I all admitting that they 100% knew his grand lie and continued to put it out there on there telecast. However, under oath every single one of them have testified that they knew it was bullshit and there are emails, texts, and transcripts of them saying exactly that. Also including saying that the shit stain Rudy G was a disaster and not to allow him on their programs anymore. Anyone who believes the election was stole is just a pathetic puppet. NOTHING WAS STOLEN EXCEPT THE SUPREME COURT. We will see what that does to the country. 

every time you post you weaken the nation

[LedZeppfan1977]

You know what?  I do not care about politics any more.  Its all bullshit.  Its constant fighting that never ends.  When you leave this life it will still be going on.  The right vs the left.  Unless they finally do get rid of parties but there is just too much loyalty for that to happen any time soon.  Move on back to science.  Or we know what comes next.  When I created this thread during the start of Covid, I never though it would still be around this long.  Its become a battlefield of sorts.  There is the one member who swore he never would come back and he kept his word.  I do not think I've seen the old boy?  When frequent posters simply up and vanish I always wonder if they are in fact ok?  Have they passed away?  Or are they just fed up with social media?  Cary on.

[slave to zep]

7 hours ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

You know what?  I do not care about politics any more.  Its all bullshit.  Its constant fighting that never ends.  When you leave this life it will still be going on.  The right vs the left.  Unless they finally do get rid of parties but there is just too much loyalty for that to happen any time soon.  Move on back to science.  Or we know what comes next.  When I created this thread during the start of Covid, I never though it would still be around this long.  Its become a battlefield of sorts.  There is the one member who swore he never would come back and he kept his word.  I do not think I've seen the old boy?  When frequent posters simply up and vanish I always wonder if they are in fact ok?  Have they passed away?  Or are they just fed up with social media?  Cary on.

Who is that old member?

Both sides are guided by the same hidden hand.