Melcórë Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I agree to an extent which is why I've never purchased that Robert Johnson box set (The Complete Recordings) I'm sorry...but that's just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckjuana Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'll be very happy even if there is only early versions of existing songs. I'd be extatic with some unreleased songs, though i think the proportion of unreleased tracks to cobwebs in the vault is skewed heavily in favour of the spiders. I'm non plussed about the remastering. I'll judge when I hear. Zeppelin is not in the present, it's history, they owe us nothing as they already delivered in spades (except ITTOD lol), which is why I'm exceptionally grateful when they give us something. Now, about that studio version of as long as I have you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (except ITTOD lol) If the remastered ITTOD is identical or anywhere close to as good as the recent iTunes version, you might change your mind about that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I said I'm sure I'll be purchasing the reissues. However, at this point the actual content hasn't even been revealed, has it? No, nothing has been revealed. The speculation train is nearing top speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I said I'm sure I'll be purchasing the reissues. However, at this point the actual content hasn't even been revealed, has it? That's why I said "to an extent". I really have no interest in hearing numerous studio takes of the exact same song especially if there's little to no variation between the different versions. You may find my thoughts on that "silly" but I would have no desire to listen to something like that more than once. That's just far too much repetition for me. If you're a completist that has to have every little thing a band ever released I can certainly understand that, I'm just not one of those people. Again, none of us even knows what's going to be on these releases yet so there's hardly any point in arguing about it. On the same note, I'm not at all opposed to "I Can't Quit You Baby" and "Communication Breakdown" being repeated on BBC Sessions as there's something markedly different about each one. That's not what I'm referring to here. However, the repetition factor on Robert Johnson's The Complete Recordings box set is too much for me. Your mileage may vary. Have you listened to the Johnson alternate takes? In at least a couple of cases, they sound almost entirely different. I just don't understand why you wouldn't want more Robert Johnson in your life. Edited March 9, 2013 by Melcórë Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Knebs Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 need to find an extra gear on that speculation train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I seem to be the only one who will be happy with new transfers Regardless of what comes out, I'll be loving it. +1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I’m a huge Zeppelin fan but new to the Forum so this will be my first post. It’s possible I’ve watched too much X-files, but I see a sort of pattern to new official Led Zeppelin releases in the past 15 years. They come in periods of 5,6 years apart, and they always come in pairs: 1997: Whole Lotta Love (single) + BBC Sessions 2003: DVD + How The West Was Won 2007: Remasters of The Song Remains The Same + Mothership 2012/3: Celebration Day + ……? If Jimmy Page continues this pattern than that would mean IMHO that the release of the first box set is only a few months away. Let’s hope so! On the other hand, this is Jimmy Page we’re talking about so it could take another 6 years… What would the bonus material in the box sets consist of? I don’t think there are a lot of studio outtakes or alternate takes left that we, fanatic fans, haven’t already heared on one of the multi-disc bootleg releases of all the Led Zep studio outtakes. I think it would be more likely that previously unreleased live-material is released (albeit in mixed and remastered form). Especially the tours of 1973 and 1977 are in my opinion underrepresented in the current official live-releases: 1969: BBC Sessions 1970: DVD 1971: BBC Sessions 1972: How The West Was Won 1973: The Song Remains The Same & DVD 1975: DVD 1979: DVD The tour of 1973 is represented in official live releases but only parts of a show, and we all know that despite the remastered version, Jimmy Page isn’t pleased with the performances on TSRTS. There is the persistent rumour for years coming from various sources that the show in Southampton 1973 was recorded by Jimmy Page with an official release in mind. If that is so, I wouldn’t be surprised if it is finally released as bonus material on the boxset for Led Zeppelin 4 for instance. The tour of 1977 is not represented in official live releases at all so it could be that a good show from that tour is finally released. Having said all this, I will buy any new official Led Zeppelin release, if only to keep my collection up to date. - peace all - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Trapper, welcome to the forum.The Southampton show was multitracked, but well-mixed bootlegs are already available, so releasing them wouldn't be a big gem for us. However, I still wouldn't say no to a Southampton live album.I think a true holy grail for us all is Japan 1971. I would say that if the tapes still exist and are in Page's possession, a release is guaranteed. Probably the best shows the band ever played.As for the 1977 tour, none of the shows were multitracked but I'd love seeing at least small video snippets of the Pontiac show (I hope the taes still exists). Edited March 10, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I don’t think there are a lot of studio outtakes or alternate takes left that we, fanatic fans, haven’t already heared on one of the multi-disc bootleg releases of all the Led Zep studio outtakes. There's an element of the unknown there - we have very little concept of what they do/don't have in terms of studio outtakes. I'd err on the side of maybe not as many as have been bootlegged will be released, but seeing as there are huge sections of the catalogue that have been unbootlegged, I'd say there's a good chance we'll have at least a few previously unheard recordings to get excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I’m a huge Zeppelin fan but new to the Forum so this will be my first post. It’s possible I’ve watched too much X-files, but I see a sort of pattern to new official Led Zeppelin releases in the past 15 years. They come in periods of 5,6 years apart, and they always come in pairs: 1997: Whole Lotta Love (single) + BBC Sessions 2003: DVD + How The West Was Won 2007: Remasters of The Song Remains The Same + Mothership 2012/3: Celebration Day + ……? If Jimmy Page continues this pattern than that would mean IMHO that the release of the first box set is only a few months away. Let’s hope so! On the other hand, this is Jimmy Page we’re talking about so it could take another 6 years… What would the bonus material in the box sets consist of? I don’t think there are a lot of studio outtakes or alternate takes left that we, fanatic fans, haven’t already heared on one of the multi-disc bootleg releases of all the Led Zep studio outtakes. I think it would be more likely that previously unreleased live-material is released (albeit in mixed and remastered form). Especially the tours of 1973 and 1977 are in my opinion underrepresented in the current official live-releases: 1969: BBC Sessions 1970: DVD 1971: BBC Sessions 1972: How The West Was Won 1973: The Song Remains The Same & DVD 1975: DVD 1979: DVD The tour of 1973 is represented in official live releases but only parts of a show, and we all know that despite the remastered version, Jimmy Page isn’t pleased with the performances on TSRTS. There is the persistent rumour for years coming from various sources that the show in Southampton 1973 was recorded by Jimmy Page with an official release in mind. If that is so, I wouldn’t be surprised if it is finally released as bonus material on the boxset for Led Zeppelin 4 for instance. The tour of 1977 is not represented in official live releases at all so it could be that a good show from that tour is finally released. Having said all this, I will buy any new official Led Zeppelin release, if only to keep my collection up to date. - peace all - You can go even farther back than that if you want. The first box set in 1990 and the Box set II in 1993 of the remasters of what was left. Perhaps, you can do some more math if you wish! BTW, a big welcome to the forum Trapper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil. Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 As long as they do not end up wearing spacesuits and the "bonus" is a short video clip.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Agreed on the suits... but I still prefer Latter and Early Days over Mothership anyday if one's in the mood for a released "best of"(tho more like "FM radio's best of" often) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvana Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I remember when I first saw the Apollo space program era "Spacesuit" cover for Early Days... OMG what were they thinking, ridiculous. That had to be a record company art dept idea. Please don't tell me that the Band thought those outfits would be cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmtomh Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I remember when I first saw the Apollo space program era "Spacesuit" cover for Early Days... OMG what were they thinking, ridiculous. That had to be a record company art dept idea. Please don't tell me that the Band thought those outfits would be cool... Silly, for sure. But in fairness, it was a not-entirely-stupid play on the LZ II cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayley10 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 What would you prefer? DVD and BluRay release of uncut Royal Albert Hall show 1970 DVD and BluRay release of full MSG show 1973 without dream sequences DVD and BluRay release of full Earls Court show 1975 DVD and BluRay release of ful 1977 show DVD and BluRay release of full Knebworth show 1979 Other (please say what) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Depends on what 1977 show you are talking about. I think I'd take Pontiac over uncut Blu-ray of MSG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayley10 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Depends on what 1977 show you are talking about. I think I'd take Pontiac over uncut Blu-ray of MSG. Same here but we don't know what's been kept, do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 DVD and BluRay release of full MSG show 1973 without dream sequences Impossible. They didn't have enough film - that is why there are fantasy sequences, not to mention re-shoots from Shepperton more than a year later, interspersed within the genuine concert footage. We could, conceiveably, have unedited (or mostly so) album releases of the concert run, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Depends on what 1977 show you are talking about. I think I'd take Pontiac over uncut Blu-ray of MSG.I don't think anyone has Pontiac there's never been a whisper or snippet about it and Seattle is degraded beyond belief, nothing from 77 video is ever gonna come out Edited March 19, 2013 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) I don't think anyone has Pontiac there's never been a whisper or snippet about it and Seattle is degraded beyond belief, nothing from 77 video is ever gonna come out This is degraded? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNycVDvsKg Now to be fair, there is only two and a half songs in this quality, but it's proof that lower gen video does indeed exist. I have to think that it's been excluded up until this point due to it not having a multitrack audio. There is a boot out there that is from an (assumed) official source provided to BET (yes, BET) for a possible project including Puff Daddy. The audio is just the video soundtrack, and possibly better than Year of the Dragon. Edited to add "assumed" Edited March 19, 2013 by publicenemy3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Seattle is not a bad performance.By the way, has it been confirmed that none of 1977 shows were multitracked? Edited March 20, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 There's not really any proof that there were any multitracked shows from 1977. Confirmed? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Impossible. They didn't have enough film - that is why there are fantasy sequences, not to mention re-shoots from Shepperton more than a year later, interspersed within the genuine concert footage. We could, conceiveably, have unedited (or mostly so) album releases of the concert run, though.The band decided to reshoot some parts at Shepperton because camerawork of the original footage was unacceptable, not because there were gaps in between filmed portions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) There's not really any proof that there were any multitracked shows from 1977. Confirmed? No.That's disappointing. I've heard that Eddie Kramer was going to record a live album in 1977 but finally decided that the band was way too sloppy that year. However, almost everyone will agree that Led Zeppelin played some of their best concerts in the end of June 1977. Edited March 20, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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