chef free Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just down loaded this, looks like fun! Who's heard it? This is the info I got with it: CONTRAST CLAUSE: this is a new, different version than the below matrixes and merges:http:// torrents-details.php?id=647291 BTRR merge of AUD.1 + matrix of AUD.3 & SBDhttp:// torrents-details.php?id=104723 Winston Remaster merge of AUD.1, AUD.3, and matrix of AUD.1 & SBDhttp:// /torrents-details.php?id=607335 merge of AUD.1 + AUD.3 patches to completehttp:/ torrents-details.php?id=606710 Eat A Peach bootleg (merge of AUD sources)http:/ torrents-details.php?id=573978 Lighthouse bootleg version (same as Winston Remaster?)http:// /torrents-details.php?id=469695 Flying Disc "Led Poisoning" bootleg (SBD source)LED ZEPPELIN - 1973-03-16 - Vienna - NEW 4 SOURCE MATRIX (16bit)Led Zeppelin - "Vienna Fireworks: Live in Europe 1973"Recorded Friday evening March 16, 1973 at the Wiener Stadthalle, Vienna, AustriaSTEREO MATRIX of 4 recordings synchronized & mixed together in varying levels & combinations: AUD sources 1-3 and SBD (where available).SONGS: [2:11:25]01. introduction [0:57]02. Rock and Roll (Bonham, Jones, Page, Plant) [3:48]03. Over the Hills and Far Away (Page, Plant) [6:41]04. Black Dog (Jones, Page, Plant) [6:18]05. Misty Mountain Hop (Jones, Page, Plant) [4:27]06. Since I've Been Loving You (Jones, Page, Plant) [9:09]07. Dancing Days (Page, Plant) [5:53]08. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (Jones, Page, Plant) [6:26]09. The Song Remains the Same (Page, Plant) [5:20]10. The Rain Song (Page, Plant) [9:19]--- [* = board tape available / optional disc division @ 58:19]11. Dazed and Confused (Page, Holmes) * [28:30] contains:San Fransisco (Phillips)Mars, the Bringer of War (Holst)12. Stairway to Heaven (Page, Plant) * [10:59]13. Whole Lotta Love (Bonham, Dixon, Jones, Page, Plant) [25:36] contains:Everybody Needs Somebody to Love (Wexler, Berns, Burke)Boogie Chillun' (Besman, Hooker) *(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care (Leiber, Stoller) *Let's Have a Party (Robinson) *I Can't Quit You Baby (Dixon) *14. Heartbreaker (Bonham, Jones, Page, Plant) * [8:01]Jimmy Page - guitarsJohn Paul Jones - bass, organJohn Bonham - drumsRobert Plant - vocals* * *MATRIX NOTES:The general aim was to provide the whole concert in as consistent and upgraded a listening experience as could be stitched together from the various recordings which are all incomplete. While there are always some downsides to matrixing analog recordings that have been manually synchronized, it is hoped that the benefits, such as the improved stereo dimension, of the results outweigh those deficiencies. Further lesser quality audience sources than those described below also exist but were not used.AUD source #1: The master was reportedly a TDK SA 90 cassette, which matches the 45 + 45 minutes which are extant and captured tracks 2-8 & 12 and parts of 1, 9, 11, 13. Winston Remaster used for the first part (which is unmatrixed on that version). Best of the audience recordings overall, recorded close to the stage towards one side. The guitar is somewhat buried here.AUD source #2: A lower/medium quality cassette recording at a greater distance to the stage, used only to patch missing AUD sections of tracks 1 & 9-11 (and the encore break before 14).AUD source #3: Captured most of the concert except for the introduction and notably two gaps in DAC. The master reported to have been recorded with Sony mics to Uher Report reel-to-reel. Close to the quality of AUD.1 but with a different sound balance (guitar is prominent, vocals somewhat buried) and recorded towards the other side of the stage. Matrixing with AUD.1 thus allows reproducing the occasional stereo panning effects of the house mix (which are not present on the SBD): guitar break in Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, bow solo in DAC, Theremin in WLL.SBD source: Apparently a 60 minute cassette which contains most of tracks 11-14. However, several minutes of 11/DAC & 13/WLL are missing, as the tape was not flipped immediately when the side or reel A ran out. There was probably another cassette on which the first hour of the concert was recorded (or copied), including the beginning of DAC, with the engineer likely missing some two minutes of the song between the cassettes, after the first one stopped and until recording resumed on a fresh tape. The reason why only the second cassette is available (for this and also certain other dates) is perhaps that someone in or with the band wanted a listening copy of just the songs with improvisation. The mix that was recorded is not exactly the same as what was played over the PA, as some of the delay/reverb effects (particularly on the vocals), as well as the panning, heard on the audience recordings are not present.Track by track breakdown:tr.01: AUD.2+1. AUD.2 contains half a minute more of the pre-show compared to AUD.1, none of which is on AUD.3.02-08: AUD.1+3. SBD not available for the first part of the show but AUD.1 & 3 run practically without breaks until the end of BYAS.09: AUD.1/2+3. AUD.1 has breaks during the intro and its side A completely cuts out @ 1:30 into TSRTS; the taper evidently did not flip the tape and resume recording until well into DAC which gap has here been patched with AUD.2.10: AUD.2+3. AUD.1 thus does not exist for The Rain Song; the lower quality tape of AUD.2 used to substitute.11: AUD.2/1+3. AUD.1 continues recording @ 5:00 while AUD.3 cuts out around 6:45 for one minute. Both gaps in DAC have been patched by matrixing with AUD.2, except for the section between roughly 2:50 and 4:00 where that tape itself has a discontinuity.11: SBD & AUD.1+3. SBD cuts in about 15 seconds after AUD.1, i.e., around 5:15 into DAC from which point on it is the main source for the matrix but augmented with AUD.1 & 3 - and some patching from AUD.2 - as far as they are available.12: SBD & AUD.1+3. AUD.3 has short cuts in the introduction; SBD cuts out after STH ends as the tape side ran out.13: AUD.1+3 / SBD & AUD.1+3. Side B of the AUD.1 cassette runs out around 10:15 into WLL but SBD continued recording 4 minutes before that.13-14: SBD & AUD.3. The segment containing the last 13 minutes of WLL and nearly all of Heartbreaker is therefore a matrix of SBD and AUD.3 since AUD.1 was no longer recording. The encore break is largely cut on both sources between the songs: AUD.3 misses about 2:20 of atmosphere while SBD loses only 1:30 and has the first notes of Heartbreaker intact. For the sake of completeness the missing part has again been patched from AUD.2 although the change in sound is noticeable.ACKNOWLEDGMENTS: Thanks to all the tapers and the persons who made the digital transfers, and Winston Remasters whose version of AUD source 1 has been appropriated. (Indeed the whole of "Danke! Vienna", which matrixes only the parts where both AUD.1 and SBD are available, was useful for reference. Note that in the notes to that title, AUD.3 is called "Aud Source 2" whereas here it is referred to as AUD.3.)Artwork included. A Nite Owl production (NO-2020-12). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June72 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 This one is fantastic. I've been listening to it quite a bit lately, this has quickly become the best sounding version of this show and possibly the best sounding release of any Europe '73 show. Amazing work, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Would one of you kind folk possibly be able to provide a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, rm2551 said: Would one of you kind folk possibly be able to provide a link? And when you get it, can you pass it along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Hello, My first time on the site. Heard extracts on Black Beauty, it surpasses all three versions I already own. I have other Night Owl works, all are great. Very interested by a link. Have a beautiful day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Links for me too, please! Listened on Youtube and it really is a wonderful job that Nite Owl has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) I grabbed it, not listened to it yet, like many other boots on my HD's, in fact all I probably will do when I get around to it is skip through it. Far too many boots these days, oh for the early/mid seventies when there were only a handful, all the best ones too imho (pre 75 that is). Edited March 23, 2020 by JTM miising f on fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) That Heartbreaker intro still kills me every time even though I have heard it so many times. Plant says "That's not good!" referring to who knows what, then Page launches into that riffing and Bonham tries to work with him and keep up. Clearly made up on the spot and it could have been worked up into a proper track. That is Zeppelin right there. A one time riff that is better than most riffs that other bands ever came up with. Tight but Loose Dancing on the Precipice Edited March 23, 2020 by John M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, rm2551 said: Would one of you kind folk possibly be able to provide a link? 6 hours ago, Xolo1974 said: And when you get it, can you pass it along? PMs sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Me too please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Michael Fry said: Me too please! PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceFrogYum Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 May I please have the link as well. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo_fan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I would love a link as well if possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said: May I please have the link as well. Thank you 1 hour ago, Bonzo_fan said: I would love a link as well if possible! PMs sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenretreiver157 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 could i get a link? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, goldenretreiver157 said: could i get a link? thanks PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 This is an awesome show (amazing guitar-drum interplay), I'd love a copy as well, please. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, JohnOsbourne said: This is an awesome show (amazing guitar-drum interplay), I'd love a copy as well, please. Thanks in advance. PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshular Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Could I please have a link as well? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, oshular said: Could I please have a link as well? Thank you PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Phone Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 May I please have the link also? Kind thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 SIBLY in this is in their top 5 ever - maybe top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed141 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 hours ago, White Phone said: May I please have the link also? Kind thanks PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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