McSeven Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 A lot of reviewers use these two to describe new bands sounds. So in your mind. What is the difference between Zep and Sabbath Riffs. For me. Zep riffs are Dynamic and Twisty. Sabbath have a very heavy bass to their sound and sound sluggish. Mc7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lena_Zep Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 First of all, I love both of the bands. Sabbath doesn't sound sluggish to me, I actually a tiiiny little bit prefer them over Zeppelin now. However, Zep's riffs attract me more. I don't know how to explain. I can get bored over Sabbath's songs sometimes. Zep's riffs... Heavy. Intense. Magical. Complicated. Groovy. Unique. Fresh. ...it's like gliding, making out, daydreaming, floating, dancing, losing control over yourself... Ok, I lost it. Edit: I forgot about Black Sabbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djzoso Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 i'm not a sabbath fan i'd like to think of zeppelin's riffs as a woman: smart, beautiful, sexy, crazy, heartbreaking and can bring me to tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I couldn't describe a Sabbath riff if you paid me - I think I've heard about 15 seconds of one song, and that was because it was featured in music documentary. Seeing as they were two different bands in two different genres, I would imagine their guitar sounds were completely different as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Seeing as they were two different bands in two different genres, I would imagine their guitar sounds were completely different as well. They do sound quite different. Funny I don't think of Sabbath in terms of"riffs" really even though they did I suppose technically. When I listen to their music, it's an overall sound to my ears, not so much a "okay here's the guitar solo" if any of this makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Black Sabbath was far more dark and evil all around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangani Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Sabbath riffs - unsexy and ungroovy. Zeppelin riffs- sexy and groovy. There's the difference in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leddy Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I liked Sabbaths riff with Dio but with Ozzy I think its too dense..Zep riffs all the way ..Iommi is a bit of a shit guitarist sometimes in my opinion...sorry, but on the heaven and hell album he was great !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Whether it's riffs or whatever else, the key to what makes Zeppelin stand out is musical diversity. Page always changed his sound & approach if even by just a little where Iommi pretty much always sounds the same. "Into The Void" is not that different from something a few albums later like "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" where "Whole Lotta Love" has nothing in common with "Dancing Days". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 "Into The Void" is not that different from something a few albums later like "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" Oh yes it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYmkLSdrxvA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n6zP1NUaG8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzzoso Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 About all this "riffing" between Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Let me say that I believe that Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath created some of the most "powerful" and most "influential" rock and roll music of all-time. I really believe that that is not in question. I will say that I am more biased toward Led Zeppelin simply because I am more of a Jimmy Page fan. I love Tony Iommi, but I think that Jimmy Page is a better guitar player and overall "showman" than Tony Iommi. Of course this is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_LZ Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 If they were painters, BS would use almost only dark colors ; LZ would use almost all of the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Oh yes it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYmkLSdrxvA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n6zP1NUaG8 I meant the song, not the album. Ok Iommi had 2 speeds, "Spiral Architect" & "Laguna Sunrise" type songs or "Hand Of Doom" & "Supernaut" type songs. That is not a big stretch unless you're comparing it to someone completely one dimensional like the Ramones. Page was far more diverse than Iommi, even on Sabbath's later albums with Ozzy where keyboards played a larger role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I meant the song, not the album. Ok Iommi had 2 speeds, "Spiral Architect" & "Laguna Sunrise" type songs or "Hand Of Doom" & "Supernaut" type songs. That is not a big stretch unless you're comparing it to someone completely one dimensional like the Ramones. Page was far more diverse than Iommi, even on Sabbath's later albums with Ozzy where keyboards played a larger role. Well, I obviously hear a lot more diversity in Sabbath's music than you do, especially after their first three albums. There's a lot of experimentation on albums like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Never Say Die. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQkoFrIMDhs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Man Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Well, I obviously hear a lot more diversity in Sabbath's music than you do, especially after their first three albums. There's a lot of experimentation on albums like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Never Say Die. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQkoFrIMDhs Agreed, Sabbath definitely stretched their musical wings on SBS ( a personal favorite), and while Iommi may not be as diverse as Page, he's managed to bring himself and Black Sabbath in some form to fans right up until 2006...so I guess I'll award him points for longevity. Something I wish Jimmy would take a Page from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2walsh Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Zep riffs = more creative, powerful, and will stand the test of time. Sab = dark, sinister, and powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festering Gob Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I guess Zep riffs are a melting pot of many diverse influences where sabbath riffs tend to reflect the concept the band was about I'd be interested to see what the responses would be to this identical thread on a sabbath forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsmith9095 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I guess Zep riffs are a melting pot of many diverse influences where sabbath riffs tend to reflect the concept the band was about I'd be interested to see what the responses would be to this identical thread on a sabbath forum Of course,we have the intersection of the 2 bands from the long-rumored jam sessions in 1970 titled "Black Zeppelin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrThompson Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Both bands have great riffs. Sabbath in a way are more dark than zepp, but i dont know if its because preferences or what, but i think that led riffs are much better than the songs of ozzy and cia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashmir330 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Zeppelin's riffs to me are groovy, diverse, sexy, funky, full of light and shade, etc... Sabbath's riffs seem to plod along and are a bit to sluggish in my opinion. I was a big Sabbath fan (not so much anymore). I personally wasn't that interested in their riffs but enjoyed Bill Ward's drumming as he is a great drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 One of my favorite Black Sabbath songs is Flying High Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festering Gob Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 One of my favorite Black Sabbath songs is Flying High Again. that is not a sabbath song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 that is not a sabbath song Okay, one of my favorite Ozzy Osbourne songs is Flying High Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1fan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I liked Sabbaths riff with Dio but with Ozzy I think its too dense..Zep riffs all the way ..Iommi is a bit of a shit guitarist sometimes in my opinion...sorry, but on the heaven and hell album he was great !!! lets see how good Page is with two of his fretting hand fingers cut off at the tips. hence Tonys use of down tuning and power chords. i hate ignorant people who talk shit about one of the best bands ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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