PhxHorn Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Did they ever have a tentative setlist put together for the 1980 US tour? I've heard they'd considered Carouselambra. I also note that the 1980 European tour was a drastic change from previous tours, with some major tunes having been cut and more concentration on newer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepps_apprentice Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Did they ever have a tentative setlist put together for the 1980 US tour? I've heard they'd considered Carouselambra. I also note that the 1980 European tour was a drastic change from previous tours, with some major tunes having been cut and more concentration on newer ones. it would probably be the same as the Europe tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Considering JPJ was spending equal, if not more time on keys than bass by 1980, In The Light would have been a fine addition along with Carouselambra. I wouldn't expect a drum solo or even Page's wacky guitar effects solo ala 77, but I'd think they would include alot from PG/Presence/ITTOD and whatever Page/Bonzo might have been cooking up for that fabled heavy album in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxHorn Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 To be more specific, I think I've heard that there are some tapes from the fall rehearsals, but I haven't heard them. Is there any definite evidence that tells us what tunes they were getting ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 To be more specific, I think I've heard that there are some tapes from the fall rehearsals, but I haven't heard them. Is there any definite evidence that tells us what tunes they were getting ready? The fall '80 rehearsals lasted one afternoon - Sept 24th - ending around 8pm, and I've never seen or heard anything that even remotely suggests they were recorded. You could be thinking of the initial ITTOD album rehearsals at Clearwell Castle in May 1978, during which Carouselambra was rehearsed extensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 According to 'The Concert File', On Sept 18th Page visited Swan Song offices to to sanction a new lighting stage rig, during the same paragraph it says "a tentative setlist was discussed with Carouselambra heading the new additions". Wether or nor this setlist was dicussed during this date i don't know, just qouteing the book.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel Zone Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Did they ever have a tentative setlist put together for the 1980 US tour? I've heard they'd considered Carouselambra. I also note that the 1980 European tour was a drastic change from previous tours, with some major tunes having been cut and more concentration on newer ones. I read somewhere that they were going to cut down on the long solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Most likely the same as the European set list. Historically they would do a world tour and the set would contain the same songs with a different or extra song played during the encore when the occasion arose. During the '72 tour they opened with Immigrant Song, played Celebration Day only a couple of times (at least on the Oz / NZ leg) and mixed up the WLL medley with a portion of The Rover only being played in Sydney. They usually opened with: '68 - '69: The Train Kept A Rolling; '70: We're Gonna Groove; '71 - '72: Immigrant Song; '73 - '75: Rock 'N' Roll; '77 - '79: Knebworth '79 TSRTS; '80: The Train Kept A Rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Considering JPJ was spending equal, if not more time on keys than bass by 1980, In The Light would have been a fine addition along with Carouselambra. I wouldn't expect a drum solo or even Page's wacky guitar effects solo ala 77, but I'd think they would include alot from PG/Presence/ITTOD and whatever Page/Bonzo might have been cooking up for that fabled heavy album in the works. I think you may have gotten a page bow solo ala Knedworth just not a long FX solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yupter Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Anyone think Wearing and Tearing would've come out, along with Carouselambra? Those would've sounded pretty good live. I can only imagine what bootlegs could've surfaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Anyone think Wearing and Tearing would've come out, along with Carouselambra? Those would've sounded pretty good live. I can only imagine what bootlegs could've surfaced. I could have sworn that someone at Knebworth '90 mentioned that W&T was considered for the '80 US tour (maybe Plant said it). I could be wrong though. That song would have been great live (esp. Bonzo's drums). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Most likely the same as the European set list. Historically they would do a world tour and the set would contain the same songs with a different or extra song played during the encore when the occasion arose. Oh god...IMO the Europe '80 setlist needed some serious work! The "Rain Song"/"Hot Dog"/"All My Love" trifecta kills whatever momentum the shows had gathered up to that point. And for chrissakes, Jimmy, lose "White Summer"! It was tedious enough in '77; in '80 it seemed ten times worse, especially since Page could barely play the fuckin' piece any more! Here's my idea of a potential "The Eighties, Part One" setlist: Train Kept A Rollin'>Nobody's Fault But Mine/Black Dog/Hot Dog/Carouselambra/Trampled Under Foot/Since I've Been Loving You/Achilles Last Stand/All My Love/Wearing And Tearing/Kashmir/Bow Guitar Solo>In The Evening/Stairway To Heaven/Rock And Roll/Whole Lotta Love/Communication Breakdown OR Heartbreaker ...that is, IF they indeed planned to add "Carouselambra" and "Wearing And Tearing" to the set. Still, we got, what? 17 songs including encores, no drum solos, no epic jam songs...it still fits Jimmy's "Cut the waffle" philosophy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxHorn Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 There is a torrent at Dime right now that supposedly has the 1980 rehearsal. Torrent #292541 Bootleg Title: Strange Tales From The Road Bootleg Label: Diagrams 01 - White Summer/Black Mountain Side 02 - Kashmir 03 - Achilles Last Stand 04 - Stairway To Heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kid Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 There is a torrent at Dime right now that supposedly has the 1980 rehearsal. Torrent #292541 Bootleg Title: Strange Tales From The Road Bootleg Label: Diagrams 01 - White Summer/Black Mountain Side 02 - Kashmir 03 - Achilles Last Stand 04 - Stairway To Heaven Sounds more like a '77 rehearsal to me... It's consistent with the set list (if you take out Bonzo's + Jimmy's solos.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yupter Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Here's my idea of a potential "The Eighties, Part One" setlist: Train Kept A Rollin'>Nobody's Fault But Mine/Black Dog/Hot Dog/Carouselambra/Trampled Under Foot/Since I've Been Loving You/Achilles Last Stand/All My Love/Wearing And Tearing/Kashmir/Bow Guitar Solo>In The Evening/Stairway To Heaven/Rock And Roll/Whole Lotta Love/Communication Breakdown OR Heartbreaker Nice song choices, I'd put Wearing and Tearing as an opener and get rid of Hot Dog (haha darn Hot Dog). Although Jimmy's WS/BMS combo was a little rough during this time, he probably liked the idea of segueing into Kashmir with it. What could've he replaced it with? Maybe a Carouselambra with a JPJ segue into Kashmir? (who knows?) Would it have been possible to get rid of Stairway? That certainly would've been a change of pace to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 There is a torrent at Dime right now that supposedly has the 1980 rehearsal. Torrent #292541 Bootleg Title: Strange Tales From The Road Bootleg Label: Diagrams 01 - White Summer/Black Mountain Side 02 - Kashmir 03 - Achilles Last Stand 04 - Stairway To Heaven I have that. It's the May, 1980 rehearsals if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 There could also have been the possibility of some unperformed older tracks being dragged up, The Rover and For Your Life espeically seem like they would have fit into a "back to basics" rockier show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I read somewhere that they were going to cut down on the long solos. That's fine.... Jimmy can just jam out within the confines of their songs..... that would be just fine..... Ala OTHAFA, IS, and TU..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxHorn Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Would it have been possible to get rid of Stairway? That certainly would've been a change of pace to say the least. At the time, it was legendary and the crowds might have revolted, but in retrospect, I think it would have been a very smart move to cut it at some point. I think they'd have had to make an announcement ahead of time so as to head off booing and what not. As a closing tune, it's not that great because it's more dramatic that exciting. It was definitely the right decision to move it earlier at O2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep 4 Life Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 This is what I got for the 07-07-1980 show Train Kept a rollin Nobodys fault but mine Black Dog In the evening Rain song Hot Dog All of my love Trampled under foot Since Ive been loving you White summer/ black mountain side Kashmir Stairway to Heaven Rock n Roll Whole lotta love Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetleron Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Oh god...IMO the Europe '80 setlist needed some serious work! The "Rain Song"/"Hot Dog"/"All My Love" trifecta kills whatever momentum the shows had gathered up to that point. And for chrissakes, Jimmy, lose "White Summer"! It was tedious enough in '77; in '80 it seemed ten times worse, especially since Page could barely play the fuckin' piece any more! Here's my idea of a potential "The Eighties, Part One" setlist: Train Kept A Rollin'>Nobody's Fault But Mine/Black Dog/Hot Dog/Carouselambra/Trampled Under Foot/Since I've Been Loving You/Achilles Last Stand/All My Love/Wearing And Tearing/Kashmir/Bow Guitar Solo>In The Evening/Stairway To Heaven/Rock And Roll/Whole Lotta Love/Communication Breakdown OR Heartbreaker ...that is, IF they indeed planned to add "Carouselambra" and "Wearing And Tearing" to the set. Still, we got, what? 17 songs including encores, no drum solos, no epic jam songs...it still fits Jimmy's "Cut the waffle" philosophy... i like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 The Wanton Song / The Rover / Nobody's Fault But Mine / Tea For One / In My Time Of Dying / No Quarter / In The Light / For Your Life / I'm Gonna Crawl / Kashmir Encores : In The Evening / Wearing And Tearing / Ten Years Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeplives66 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Train kept a rollin/ bring it on home/ dazed & confused (album version)/ Your time is gonna come/ Tangerine/ Down by the seaside/ Bron y aur stomp/ Going to California/ In the evening/ No quarter/ Black dog/ Celebration day/ Nobody''s fault but mine/ Song remains the same/ In my time of dying/ Stairway to heaven/ All of my love. Encores: How many more time medley w/Lemon song/ Whole lotta love medley from 72./ Rock and Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Train Kept a Rollin/Nobody's Fault/Black Dog/Carouselambra/Custard Pie/No Quarter/Since I been Lovin/Communication Breakdown/The Rain Song/Kashmir/Achilles/In the evening/Whole Lotta Love/Wearing and Tearin/Heartbreaker/Rock and Roll...that would be a pretty well rounded setlist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeplives66 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Train kept a rollin/ bring it on home/ dazed & confused (album version)/ Your time is gonna come/ Tangerine/ Down by the seaside/ Bron y aur stomp/ Going to California/ In the evening/ No quarter/ Black dog/ Celebration day/ Nobody''s fault but mine/ Song remains the same/ In my time of dying/ Stairway to heaven/ All of my love. Encores: How many more time medley w/Lemon song/ Whole lotta love medley from 72./ Rock and Roll/ Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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