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This copied from the Led Zeppelin Newsletter. Hope it's OK to do this. Anyway...

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Led Zeppelin isn’t releasing live recordings because the band members can’t agree about them

by ledzepnews

There's "no point" releasing Led Zeppelin live recordings because the band's surviving members "don't all agree" about them, according to Jimmy Page.

Page spoke to Uncut Magazine for its its May 2022 issue. In the interview, Page confirmed the December LedZepNews report that Led Zeppelin has been working on an official exhibition, but revealed that the project has ended because the band members disagreed about that as well.

When asked whether Led Zeppelin has considered holding its own exhibition, Page said that "there was something at one point. But all the members and people around the band couldn't agree. I was much happier doing my book and the exhibition with the Met."

LedZepNews broke the story in December that Led Zeppelin's surviving members along with John Bonham's widow Patricia Bonham registered a business in the UK in 2018 as part of a plan to hold a Led Zeppelin exhibition, potentially using the name "The Led Zeppelin Experience." Now it seems that has been scrapped.

Later on in the Uncut Magazine interview, Page was asked about plans to officially release Led Zeppelin live recordings.

"Obviously, there is source material that could come out – but it seems the band don't all agree so there's no point," Page said. "I'd rather do my own stuff."

Page also told Uncut Magazine that he hopes to continue his solo career. "I have got ideas and projects in mind – several possible things I could do – but I won't discuss them, because if you give one sentence of something that
might turn into a lengthy project then people start asking when it's coming out," he said. "I keep my cards close
to my chest with what I am doing, because I don't want to let the fans down."

You can order the magazine here to read the full interview.

Page and Plant both spoke about plans to release Led Zeppelin music in the past

Page has spoken in multiple interviews about his hopes to release archival Led Zeppelin music.

In 2017, Page hinted that recordings would be released in 2018. "There'll be Led Zeppelin product coming out, for sure, that people haven't heard,” he told the Academy of Achievement, "because I'm working on that. Next year will be the fiftieth year so there's all manner of surprises coming out."

In February 2018, he told Planet Rock Magazine that "there's a recording that's another multi-track that we'll release. It's so different to all the other things that are out there. It's another view compared to How The West Was Won or The Song Remains The Same. I'm looking forward to people hearing that."

In that interview, Page said he planned to continue releasing Led Zeppelin material over the next 10 years. "There's a lot of stuff to come out, a number of releases," he said. "I'd like to say that they'll be coming out over the next 10 years. There's more to come for sure."

Asked around the same time about potential Led Zeppelin releases, Robert Plant was less committal. "There's a lot of stuff rolling around," he told The Toronto Sun. "It's a bit like water in the bottom of a paddle boat."

Page again mentioned plans for Led Zeppelin releases in an interview with Sirius XM that was broadcast in December 2018. By that point, it sounded like the plans were more uncertain.

"I've always got things in mind and I always think of things as a sort of schedule of releases over a period of time. I’ve never been, actually, any different. And, obviously, I would have ideas of things or projects which could go ahead, but, you know, it all takes time," he said.

"Who knows what may come further on down the line? I’ll leave it … I don’t know. So I can’t really say at this point," he added.

In the end, no Led Zeppelin live recordings were released for the band's fiftieth anniversary. Instead, Led Zeppelin released a seven-inch vinyl single for Record Store Day in May 2018 that featured previously unreleased studio mixes of "Rock And Roll" and "Friends".

Led Zeppelin hasn't released any live music since the remastered edition of the band's debut album was released in June 2014. It included a bonus disc featuring a recording of Led Zeppelin performing at the Olympia in Paris on October 10, 1969.

The 2018 remastered release of the live album How The West Was Won managed to remove two minutes and nine seconds of audio of Led Zeppelin performing "Whole Lotta Love" after Page cut the "Hello Mary Lou" section of the medley that was present on the album's original 2003 release.

What was Jimmy Page planning?

There has been speculation that Page's plan to release live Led Zeppelin material may have included soundboard tapes of the band's 1971 Japan tour. Snippets of those tapes emerged through unofficial bootleg labels in recent years, potentially as a side effect of Page digging out the tapes and considering them for an official release.

Snippets of soundboard recordings of the band's September 28 and September 29, 1971 shows in Osaka, Japan began to emerge in July 2016 when bootleg label Empress Valley released the soundboard tape of "Black Dog" from September 28, 1971.

That was followed by "Immigrant Song" from the September 29, 1971 performance in February 2018 and then "Stairway To Heaven" and "Friends" from that show in April 2018. A more complete version of the September 29, 1971 show was released in October 2018.

Finally, an expanded version of the soundboard tape of the September 28, 1971 show was released in January 2020.

Who is holding up live releases?

Page's comments blaming the surviving band members for holding up plans to release live Led Zeppelin recordings are likely to spark speculation about who exactly is causing the disagreement.

Clearly Page is keen for tapes to emerge, leaving Plant and Jones as the remaining culprits.

Some clues may be found in an episode of The Vinyl Guide podcast released in August 2021 that interviewed photographer Ross Halfin, a close friend of Page.

During the interview, Halfin was asked by host Nate Goyer whether there are good quality unreleased live recordings in Led Zeppelin’s archives.

“Yeah, Led Zeppelin have the tapes,” Halfin said. “The band have the actual master tapes.”

“There’s the live in Japan 1971 that’s never come out. There is Southampton 1973 that has never come out. They have stuff and then I think the original idea was Jimmy was always going to do a live album and call it Early Days and Latter Days which became a greatest hits [album].

“I’m curious to see if Led Zeppelin ever put anything else out,” he added. “I’m surprised they haven’t put out the Albert Hall on vinyl because they have the tapes of that. And there’s always the Southampton 1973 warm-up show, that hasn’t come out. I’d love to hear the Japan 1971 they have complete from the Budokan.”

Halfin was asked why the band hasn’t released more live recordings. “It has to be agreed by all of them. It’s the same as Pink Floyd, it’s a band agreement and you’ve got certain band members that think it interferes in their solo career,” he said.

Halfin's claim that Led Zeppelin live recordings aren't being released to avoid interfering with a solo career seems to point the finger squarely at Plant, whose solo career has thrived in recent years with multiple solo albums and tours along with his recent album and a planned world tour with Alison Krauss.

By contrast, Jones' solo career has consisted of various short term projects and live performances along with plans for an opera which has yet to be staged. Jones told Mojo Magazine in its December 2018 issue that he "can't be arsed" to record a new solo album.

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3 hours ago, Jukkin said:

“There’s the live in Japan 1971 that’s never come out. There is Southampton 1973 that has never come out.

But this has come out hasn't it? While an official release would be great, Page would chop the shit out of. I play the boots I have on a pretty regular basis and am quite happy with the quality - performance warts and all. 

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11 hours ago, The Only Way To Fly said:

But this has come out hasn't it? While an official release would be great, Page would chop the shit out of. I play the boots I have on a pretty regular basis and am quite happy with the quality - performance warts and all. 

Yep, this 👆. Well said. I am more than satisfied with all the bootlegs I have (and the BBC and HTWWW, etc etc).  And a shout out to all the SteveZ remasters 😉

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7 hours ago, JTM said:

Ancient news, personaly I'm past caring.

Same here. My musical taste changed a long time ago. I have hundreds of CD's of Boots in the loft which to be fair is taking room up for more worthwhile projects. Lights, Tent, Seeds......................... Action !

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11 hours ago, chillumpuffer said:

for more worthwhile projects.

I'm thinking a bit more about a project myself. Just can't afford disclosure (he says as he posts to a public forum, yah, I get the irony :P) not to mention the space to allocate is not really there. Still.....

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16 hours ago, drpete said:

Hopefully Page ( I suspect) or someone keeps giving tapes to bootleg companies to be released.   Its not ideal but all we have and better than nothing 

Could be. If Robert is indeed holding up new official releases, Page could be thinking, "fine, I will get them in the bootleg market then" just to get it out. 

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8 hours ago, BobDobbs said:

Could be. If Robert is indeed holding up new official releases, Page could be thinking, "fine, I will get them in the bootleg market then" just to get it out. 

Can’t see it. He’s such a perfectionist, I don’t think he could bear having the unedited versions out there. 

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If Percy is actually holding up Jimmy on releasing live material, that is a travesty. Yeah we have all the boots, and yeah, Jimmy chops and edits, BIG DEAL - it's still official releases. I don't want to believe it's true....

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What if it was someone close to him getting the Led Out. Maybe Someone who had released a photo book recently about bootlegs...???

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It's obviously Robert who is against these releases. I don't see JPJ being  against these. This is the first time I am upset with RP if it's true. I have always respected his decision against a reunion tour, etc because I felt he did not owe us anything. That said, for people like me who are obsessed with the band, we always want more releases. These shows would be so awesome to hear. Damn shame.

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3 hours ago, Wolfman said:

It's obviously Robert who is against these releases. I don't see JPJ being  against these. This is the first time I am upset with RP if it's true. I have always respected his decision against a reunion tour, etc because I felt he did not owe us anything. That said, for people like me who are obsessed with the band, we always want more releases. These shows would be so awesome to hear. Damn shame.

From Robert's interviews it seems to me to be a bit embarrassed by the whole Zep period. He goes on about how silly his histrionic singing was in the early days. Then he goes on about how ridiculous the lifestyle was. Blah, blah, blah...oh boo hoo Robert. So sorry you were forced to bed a few thousand groupies and make several tens of millions of dollars in the process.

Robert needs to be the captain of the ship. Richard Cole said it best in the book by Mick Wall when he tells a tale of being pool-side in 69' and asking Plant to go get some sandwiches. Plant had a bloody fit! As much as I love the guy and respect him, he really can be more than a bit of a "Percy" from time to time. IMO Zep was Plant's stepping stone to his solo career as far as he is concerned at this point in time.

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Plant loves nothing better than to cherry pick his past. I think he only says it for effect. He still plays the odd Zep tune in his endless dull tours however. Re invent yourself all your like pal, but you will be forever known as the frontman of Led Zeppelin as Jimmy Page is known as the guitarist of. I am sure we are all embarrassed of things we did when we were 18 - 30, but we don't go on about it like he does. Bet he doesn't turn down the royalty cheques?

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The thing that sticks in my craw is, if Jimmy had multiple releases planned (or those type of "projects" being considered), and one was the "Early Days, Latter Days" original idea of live stuff, does that mean latter days would be something different from Knebworth? And if so, could it be Copenhagen SB's that Jimmy has, and was thinking of cleaning up and mastering??? Maybe even a few tracks from 1980 (of which there are 3 or 4 probably worth the effort). And for that matter, maybe Jim still has hold of the LA soundboards. The more I think about it the more it bugs me - to put it mildly.

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21 hours ago, BobDobbs said:

From Robert's interviews it seems to me to be a bit embarrassed by the whole Zep period. He goes on about how silly his histrionic singing was in the early days. Then he goes on about how ridiculous the lifestyle was. Blah, blah, blah...oh boo hoo Robert. So sorry you were forced to bed a few thousand groupies and make several tens of millions of dollars in the process.

Robert needs to be the captain of the ship. Richard Cole said it best in the book by Mick Wall when he tells a tale of being pool-side in 69' and asking Plant to go get some sandwiches. Plant had a bloody fit! As much as I love the guy and respect him, he really can be more than a bit of a "Percy" from time to time. IMO Zep was Plant's stepping stone to his solo career as far as he is concerned at this point in time.

Well written my friend.

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Plant is so derisive!   Plant says "things are rolling around, like water at the bottom of a paddleboat"!   LOL!  What a way to say "it doesn't mean anything to me".

Page finally revives his "I'm working on new material" lie.  I wondered when he would try to resurrect that.

 

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I think humour and sarcasm is the only thing he has to deflect interviewers from the fact he doesn’t want to talk about a period in which he lost his son and best mate. 

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Sad for those of us who want more live material but don't listen to bootlegs.  It always seems like Robert Plant isn't interested in Led Zeppelin releases unless they coincide with a release from him.  It's almost like he wants his solo stuff to ride the coat tails of a Zeppelin release. 

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I wish Plant would either get over it, or get out of the way. For fucks sake, these guys are going to kick the bucket soon. Let Page finish out his archivist mission of preserving Zeppelin for generations. 

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On 4/5/2022 at 7:22 AM, mrlowry said:

Sad for those of us who want more live material but don't listen to bootlegs. 

There are some really good boots out there well worth a listen. Some in a quality good enough that they are practically "official release" level.

If you haven't listened to any as you don't have any but would like to sample some, reach out, I'll send some.

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